It's my first time here, so I'll quickly introduce myself: I'm Carel Fransen, graphic designer from the Netherlands, and currently working on my graduation projects.

For my project, I'm looking for a quality condensed font with a large x-height that does great at small corps-sizes (approx. 6-7 pt).

I have got one font that works very well: Bureau Grot Light. However, I'd like to have some options. Unfortunately, due to the "advanced search"-mechanisms on big font-sites not being that advanced, it's nearly impossible to search for something this specific.

We are looking for sans sefic faces that are really spacially economical with as large an x-height as possible for setting the nutritional info on some food packaging we are designing. The packaging is subject to some very tight guidelines and we are looking for a face that has a large x-height, is spacially economical but is not a condensed face. Any suggestions are very welcome.

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Antique Olive as body text?

My first post here. hiii : )

I'm wondering about general thoughts on pairing Antique Olive with Chaparral Pro? There seems to be few discussions on the former typeface and I'm wondering if someone could offer their insights. This is for resume & portfolio layout, with light Antique Olive as body text (8/11 pt) and light Chaparral Pro as headers in all caps at 8pt.
Being a type novice and new to this font combination, I'd greatly appreciate any thoughts or opinions.

Some concerns I have are:
1) readability
2) the general impression it conveys
3) hisory/cultural associations?

Is there any font classification service (web page, app, book) that classifies fonts by x-height, ascender and descender lengths, stroke contrast, apertures and counters, besides the basic serif and sans-serif classifications? Also if if the font is made for heading, body, etc.

Hello Typophiles:

Just wondering if anyone knows the history of any proposals that may have been made in the past to systematize a universal "x-factor" for typefaces that would allow easy calculation of ideal body text sizing? (Searching the forums didn't reveal any hits...)

For example:
If we just hypothetically used Helvetica 55 as the universal standard yardstick (since it's so ubiquitous), we could give this font an "x-factor" of 1.000 and then assign an x-factor to all other fonts based on the ratio of their x-heights to Helvetica's (using 1000 UPM measurements).

714 (ascend) + 286 (descend) = 1000 UPM
517 = x-height

Times New Roman:
717 (ascend) + 283 (descend) = 1000 UPM
461 = x-height

I want to share with you a tool I developed to help us designers choosing fonts for our css stacks that are similar in aspect values and alphabet widths for a given font size.

I have a couple of unrelated type questions:

1. What is the reasoning for having ascenders exceed caps height, is it just a style or does it help when reading small copy or large bodies of text?

2. When developing a sans inspired Hebrew character set, is there any reason to develop an italic set as well? From what I understand, Hebrew has no true italics, but are italics used with any frequency in modern day text settings using Hebrew?

3. What's the reasoning behind some Small Caps exceeding x height is it just preference depending on the dimensions of they typeface or is it just about aesthetics?

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