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Hi, I'd like to know if anybody can identify these 2 fonts?
I'm a noobie at font identifying and the online ID sites couldn't find an exact match.
Any close font ID's are welcomed as well. Thanks!

- Pat

Hi there, I was trying to figure out what type of font this is that is surrounding the logo of St. Louis Cardinals?! Much help to those able to assist me in this, initially I thought it was Copperplate Light but that clearly isn't it! Thanks again!

Hi there, I was trying to figure out what type of font this is that is surrounding the logo of St. Louis Cardinals?! Much help to those able to assist me in this, initially I thought it was Copperplate Light but that clearly isn't it! Thanks again!

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