First font: unnamed classicistic semiserif

Sebastian Nagel's picture

Hi,

this is my first font i've ever made. It is a quite a strange mixture of classicistic fonts and modern semi-serifs.

i have just finished a first sketch of the lower case glyphs, now starting with upper case, and i would appreciate some feedback about the work so far.

I haven't done any kerning or spacing yet, so it doesn't make sense to show reading-sized text (it would be too ugly), but the font is intended to be used as reading-font for small text-passages, and display-sizes.

what do you think about the idea at all? what about horizontal stroke-weight? is it too thin for reading-sized text? any suggestions about one of the glyphs?

thanks for your comments,
sebilar

gif of lowercase unnamed_classicistic_semiserif

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Forrest L Norvell's picture

Right now it feels a bit like a didot, with the weaknesses that implies: I think the widths of your horizontal strokes will be pushing things at text sizes. Also, the color feels inconsistent.

I like the serifs, although I think maybe they're a little too consistent right now, with all of them facing left except for the g. They also look a little funny on the v, w, and z, although I'm not sure what I'd like to see instead.

The t feels a little stunted. The spine on the s feels inelegant and chunky, although I like the terminals.

The counters all look nice, except the m feels a little compressed and the c has too much open space inside.

I like the tail on the y.

Overall, this has promise. This has kind of a postmodern feel without being irritating about it, and I like what you've done with the idea of semi-serifs.

Sebastian Nagel's picture

you are right, a high stroke contrast implies lesser readability, that's why i intend it for short texts only (maybe jewelry-advertising? i don't know), and for display use.
"Also, the color feels inconsistent." --> can you explain me this one? i am German-speaking and don't understand this one (word). do you mean gray impression that might be not even?

the direction of the serifs is inspired by Rotis SemiSerif (Otl Aicher), i think they are okay, except maybe for the z (i can't figure out how to do them right).

i am unsure about the t myself, but i don't know how to do it yet. is it right that the cross bar has to be x-height?

s is (as expected) my big problem child :-) i just don't know how to do it right. do you think it should rise more steeply?
at the moment, it's too small as well.

you are right on the c and the m. c has to be corrected, i will have a look on m as well.

i hate the tail on the y :-)
do you really like this one?

well, next big step will be upper case, but before i will think about re-doing the horizontal stroke weight.


thanks a lot for your feedback, this really helps me to continue :-)

Forrest L Norvell's picture

"Also, the color feels inconsistent." --> can you explain me this one? i am German-speaking and don't understand this one (word). do you mean gray impression that might be not even?

Yeah, the large aperture and thin lower stroke in the c, especially, might keep the letters from creating an even gray on the page. "Color" is indeed the overall impression of the page's balance of black and white. And I probably spoke to soon: that was just my gut response, and until I see this font in a text setting and printed, I won't know how I feel about its color.

i am unsure about the t myself, but i don't know how to do it yet. is it right that the cross bar has to be x-height?

The t's height and crossbar are all right, I think you just need to work on the curve of the tail. It feels too narrow.

s is (as expected) my big problem child i just don't know how to do it right. do you think it should rise more steeply?
at the moment, it's too small as well.


The curve in the middle of the s should be thinner

hrant's picture

> even gray

Of which there can be too much though.
Information comes from contrast, after all, not a hypnotic gray blob.

> The curve in the middle of the s should be
> thinner

Sebastian Nagel's picture

thanks for the tip with the "y", Hrant.
maybe i am just a bit too consequent when trying to follow the guidelines i imposed on myself.
i will try your solution, maybe they are useful when working on the uppercase too (comparing your "j" und "J".

i also like your "g", as i was irresolute about giving it a modern form or an old-styled with loop. your "g" is something in between.

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