VOLT 1.3 and windows 7

Typogruffer's picture

Hey guys,
I tried installing VOLT on windows 7 and got shocked to see no install button on the installation screen. I can not install VOLT on my windows 7 machine because of this.
please look at the attached image to understand my problem.

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Typogruffer's picture

I did change the directory hoping something might happen but nothing changed..

Karl Stange's picture

I do not know how to resolve your issue but this post from John Hudson indicates that it should be possible to run VOLT in a Windows 7 environment.

oldnick's picture

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit allows you to install Windows 95 programs, if you wish, by creating a Virtual Machine on your desktop. You will get a prompt, asking if you actually wish to proceed, whenever one of these machines is accessed but, other than that, older programs operate seamlessly.

So, how are you Mac Classic fans faring?

Karl Stange's picture

So, how are you Mac Classic fans faring?

By hiding one of these under the desk in case of emergencies : ) The last time I had to resort to that was to look at a 133mm Magneto Optical disc, which was quite some time ago thankfully.

Typogruffer's picture

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit allows you to install Windows 95 programs,

wait VOLT is a windows 95 program?
Boy! that is OLD and Nick, can you tell me how to run it on windows 7 please

oldnick's picture

No, VOLT is not a Windows 95 program, but Windows 7 can create a virtual machine to support programs that old. I haven’t had to install an older program on my Grandpas Box lately, but info about setting up a virtual workspace on Windows 7 should be abundant…

Bendy's picture

I think you might have to click the icon on the left of that dialogue box, instead of looking for a button labelled 'install'.

Typogruffer's picture

@Bendy Thank You so much. I feel like a doofus now. I just have to click the old computer icon now. I think i should pay more attention to those messages on install screen

oldnick's picture

I think i should pay more attention to those messages on install screen

An excellent idea: I have found such things to be immensely helpful from time to time…

John Hudson's picture

Ah yes, the infamous VOLT installer unlabelled button problem. I remember this confusing me many years ago when I first installed VOLT.

One other thing you may need to do: the first time you run VOLT, run as Administrator (right click on the .exe or shortcut and select that option).

Typogruffer's picture

Since John is here I want to ask which is better, VOLT or AFDKO for Hebrew font development. I am a complete noob, BTW. and also apart from the one hour video available in the VOLT website and the VOLT manual, is there any other way i can learn VOLT?

John Hudson's picture

I only use VOLT for OpenType development. My understanding is that you should be able to do everything necessary in AFDKO 2.0, but I've never tried it. I've been using VOLT since it first came out, and my workflow is very VOLT-centric.

HVB's picture

Last week I went to install Volt 1.3 on my new Windows 7 (64-bit) and it said that it couldn't install because some of my 'system files' were out of date. It offered to update them, but I balked, since all MS updates were installed.

UPDATE: I bit the bullet and let it install what it thought were more up-to-date system files. No ill effects have been noted.

- Herb

oldnick's picture

I bit the bullet and let it install what it thought were more up-to-date system files.

The files were not necessarily more up-to-date. Sometimes, new Dynamic Link Libraries omit older dependencies, presumably on the assumption that newer programs all use newer DLLs. If VOLT needs a previous version to work, then you probably got less up-to-date files.

And, Typogruffer: the fact that you are a noob is apparent with both your choice of handles and every question that you post here. Sometimes, folks are surprised by the many and varied answers to the question, “How hard can it be?”

Typogruffer's picture

@OldNick again didn't get you properly. I am not sure if you are supporting me or otherwise but i will take it that you are.

choice of handles

I am not sure what you meant by this but if you are talking about my avatar(bezier handles), in my defense i drew it in Photoshop with a mouse.
And coming to the noob questions, I decided to tone them down and post only when it is absolutely necessary. By not doing my own research, I am missing a lot of knowledge that can be gained very easily. Unless I have something which can not be solved easily, I wont post it here.
Thanks oldnick and the whole Typophile family for patiently helping me with my queries. If I ever make it big, I owe everything to this forum.

hrant's picture

Well, not everything, but some things. Even if you make it medium. :-)

Thanks for asking questions - it makes people who think they have the answers think again.

hhp

oldnick's picture

@Typogruffer—

Allow me to elucidate. I presume that you are young (under twenty-five). From what I observe, your generation has been fed the notion that acquiring professional tools automatically makes you a professional: sadly, this is not often the case. To my mind, there are no substitutes for a firm technical foundation and thoughtful mentoring. Before I turned pro around 2001, I had: over forty years of experience operation dedicated typesetting machines; almost as many years dealing with computers; advanced drafting skills with ruling pen an compass; about sixteen combined years, working in actual print shops; and, the ten previous years, wrangling bezier curves.

Prompted by a certain je ne sais quoi, Ilene Strizver ( http://thetypestudio.com/ ) took me under her wing and, together, we developed the ITC and Monotype exclusives in my oeuvre. I was only after learning a deeper level of craft from Ms Strizver that I had the confidence to strike out on my own. So, the whole process is a little more complicated than opening the box and becoming an instant star.

How had can it be? Very: as formats evolve, continuing education becomes critical. Thanks to the generosity of many folks in this forum, I have been able to keep up with the most important developments, and keep my product line more or less state-of-the-art. I do not wish to appear to deny you the same access to the collected wisdom which may be found herein; I merely wish to point out that it can be very hard, professional tools notwithstanding…

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