Sorry I missed your talk, Stuart! I read your linked info but am not clear on what is searched and how it operates?

Absolutely awesome. You inspired a new post: http://readthetype.com/typesnitch

If I join, do I get to wear a cool badge? Carry a dagger? Double dagger?

Smooth move Stuart - count me in.

make sure folks Googling for a font will find authorized retailers before they find free downloadable versions.

This would happen somewhat over the long run the more download sites cooperate, but here's an idea that might help it along: instead of relying solely on the font houses' own site(s) maybe TypeSnitch could -with each font house's consent- have a (Google-searchable) page that directs people searching for a font (that is subscribed to TypeSnitch) to where to buy it. With enough visits and links (and hopefully whatever else is in Google magic potion) that page might become a high-ranked portal (sorry for the 90s terminology :-) for where to buy a font.

hhp

@ Hrant, great suggestion! I'll forward it along to the developer . . .

@ Chris, thank you kindly and I'll definitely make sure you get a head's up once there is something to sink your teeth into!

56% funded! :D

Thanks Pablo! I suspect the feature set will be expanded once it gets up and running!

68% funded so far! It'd be great to get this fully funded in the next week or so!

Do violators get TP'd?

Who reports the pages that offer fonts for free? Google?

@ Stuart: Google has announced that they would lower the ranking of sites based on reports (to Google) of copyright violations.

Do you feel that this will augment, replace, or possibly diminish the impact of your proposed process?

- Herb

@ Christopher:

Here's an article from Forbes

Great idea. I wonder, would the site be able to do anything about other copyright infringements (for example if the font is renamed or if it's used as the basis for someone else's 'interpretation')?

83% Nearly There! Help us push it through 100% Please spread the word and encourage fellow font designers to particiate!

Thank you!
Stuart

Another percent added. I am, however, not quite sure how I feel about this approach, but I’ll hold my worries for now.

@ Dave - You make a good point and indeed that may be a good tool to add, perhaps a bookmarklet that sorta drops the dime on sites where lots of commercial fonts are being shared. That's a really good thought!

@ Frank - 99%!?!?!? Very Exciting! Be assured I couldn't support or promote any effort that I didn't feel would be a successful solution for this problem and aid the folks who helped to fund it. I suspect once it's fully funded you'll start to receive a welcome letter from the developer with status updates.

As defined, the project required full funding before any work could be started, so it'll be in the build stage next and soon!

Hrant: I read this thread very quickly a couple days ago, but certainly your mail to the ATypI list acted as a reminder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19295221

"Those wishing to protect their copyright on YouTube are encouraged to use a free tool called Content ID which digitally fingerprints their work and notifies them if it appears on the site, Google said."

Stuart, how might Content ID be relevant here?

hhp

Congrats on the ’Snitch, Stuart.

have a (Google-searchable) page that directs people searching for a font (that is subscribed to TypeSnitch) to where to buy it. With enough visits and links (and hopefully whatever else is in Google magic potion) that page might become a high-ranked portal (sorry for the 90s terminology :-) for where to buy a font.

This already exists: Identifont.

How are Identifont and TypeSnitch the same?

@Christopher Dean

Well, they're not EXACTLY the same; TypeSnitch is a derivative of Identifont, only subscription-based, so Stu makes money. Likewise, Stu's BTN line is derivative of a lot of other popular fonts, and Stu makes money. However, Stu is very possessive of typeface for which he has paid to "owns" the designs. Capisce?

Hey Gang,

Sorry you're all off-base . . . Firstly, I have no dreams on making another Identifont, not even close . . .

TypeSnitch is simply a tool for font foundry owners to find 'freely' distributed versions of their commercial for sale only fonts floating all over the internet that shouldn't be there and automates the task of getting them removed via automated or manually executed take-down letters, DCMAs, etc and building relationships with site owners who didn't know the fonts were there to get them removed and generally doing what the service can to assure the top search results for a font name yield ACTUAL retailers of the fonts first and not free downloads of the fonts.

TypeSnitch is a tool and nothing more and one that I think myself and a lot of font designers really need to preserve the value of their libraries. I'd much prefer to make fonts and negotiate licenses than troll the internet and send take-down letters all day and figured there must be a way it could be automated if such a tool was built for this task, so I got in touch with a developer who agreed the idea made sense and if it could be funded would be built .

I'm pleased with how quickly it received funding which means lots of folks support the idea and as the funding increases, it gives the developer more capital to make the service better. To be absolutely clear about this, while I'm a primary driver of the effort, I haven't and won't ever receive a dime of the funds donated, they 100% go to the developer and PayPal who takes their cut to accept the funds.

I suspect over time, the cash I donated to fund the effort will be easily returned in legitimate font sales of my works and it gives me peace of mind that I'm doing something to assure the sites that shouldn't have 'em don't. The fact that I opened up the project so other font designers could participate was because I knew it was a tool others needed, just as I do and to be more than fully funded in under 3 weeks proves that.

Lastly, I must point out the ONLY comparison to Identifont was made as a suggestion by Hrant just above in this thread about what the service COULD be and I'm honestly puzzled how quickly the wheels fell off the train with Stephen and Nick's posts since nothing I'd ever posted suggested TypeSnitch would be an Identifont type service.

And Nick, I'm not sure what you're getting at but you are welcomed to e-mail me offline at (diner at fontdiner dot com) if you have some dirty laundry you feel the need to air and FWIW, I think you have a wonderful library and respect your work but honestly have been deeply perplexed by your need to give it away freely and presume it will retain any value, perhaps I'm mis-understanding your intentions.

Calm heads everyone please, I do feel like I just broke up a lynch mob . . . Please ask questions rather jumping to conclusions so the wrong information isn't being communicated carelessly.

Folks have become really jumpy, haven't they. Reminds me of people stuck in a bomb shelter for too long. Must be the economy. You can blame anything on the economy. One day I'm going to call my wife and say: "Honey, I'm not coming home tonight. You know, the economy." Being an election year doesn't help either - people feel pressured to vote the right way. As if.

Stuart, we've known each other since the first TypeCon in '98, we've had some top-tier Mendoza Malbec together, so I'm sure you know that I for one wish you only the best. And if I can somehow hitch a nice ride on this thing, awesome.

hhp

Right on Stuart! For those who do not know Stuart he is one of the nicest guys around. Glad to be his friend!

I appreciate the kind words all and indeed Hrant we shall enjoy Malbac again soon I hope. . . Nick, we shall toast you fondly.

Chicken Stu :D

PS: My wife enjoyed my new nickname, thank you!