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(x) In Style and Warner Bros. Studios - Aquiline {Mike F}
Posted by dcolomby in
27 Jan 2005 — 1:29am
27 Jan 2005 — 1:29am
Can anyone identify this script? Thanks so much!
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27 Jan 2005 — 1:37am
Very close to Allegheny from Scriptorium
don't have reference now, but I think this is a digitization
of Ludovico degli Arrighi's calligraphy.
27 Jan 2005 — 2:37am
The actual font used (with the bulbous terminals) was Acquiline. It's
from Expert Software, a vendor of ripoff clones, but since we're here
to identify exact fonts ...
It sure appears to have been derived from Scriptorium's Allegheny.
The Golden Globe designers (and I) seem to prefer the modified
font but, clearly, that doesn't justify the origin of it.
27 Jan 2005 — 4:13am
Aquiline it is. I located it at dafont.com. Thank you Mike, and all who posted.
27 Jan 2005 — 7:46am
Aquiline was originally offered by T-26 and was a Jim Marcus digitization/design. For some reason T-26 removed it from their collection a few years back.
Here is the Script Font ID Guide sample:
You might be interested to know that typOasis has a revision of Aquiline made by Manfred Klein and CybaPee (the site owner), called Aquiline Two. You can see it has lost some of the flair of the original, and is actually based on the Expert Software version.
27 Jan 2005 — 7:54am
It also seems to have improved the kerning, which was very poor in the Jim Marcus font. I just made the second sample, so that's the first time I had a chance to compare the two.
27 Jan 2005 — 4:10pm
I'd seen that recent TypOasis version Mike. That's why I attributed it to Expert Software. The other version I have is without copyright
27 Jan 2005 — 7:35pm
I remember reading this on their help page a while back. It's still there at the bottom of the page.
28 Jan 2005 — 8:08am
Dave Nalle's Allegheny includes the original A among some alternate initials, showing it was probably based on the same source as the T-26 font, as you can see in the character map.
I think the typOasis version may have mostly made changes to the kerning, which was always pretty horrible, even in Dave Nalle's version. Since Expert Software doesn't 'design' anything, as far as I know, I wonder who they ripped their version from?
I think the funny T-26 Help section shows how often that font was asked about. I know I've ID'd it many times for people. This goes back to Mark's dissertation about people liking typefaces that 'stand out' (to paraphrase him). This explains the overblown popularity of Lys Calligraph that we have talked about several times, and, near the other end of the spectrum, of Bickham Script (and Zapfino). If it (Bickham) didn't have all those gorgeous swooping swashes, which many people can't even access in the OpenType font, no one would be as excited about it.
That's one reason why Aquiline Two might be a let-down for some users. The more flamboyant original is more 'exciting' to play around with.
28 Jan 2005 — 8:27am
Since BJ mentioned Ludovico degli Arrighi as the possible inspiration for this face, here are Philip Bouwsma's (Ludovico Woodcut) and P-22's James Grieshaber's (Operina Fiore) interpretations of his writing from the Script Guide, Part 13:
There are plainer versions of both, but these show the over-the-top flourishes that seem to be the turn-on.
27 Jan 2005 — 1:36am
The way the endings of ascenders and descenders are droplet-
shaped made me think it might be a weight of Opsmarckt, but alas ...
27 Jan 2005 — 1:45am
BJ, tr