Piquant

50pointtype's picture

Ok, this is a brushy, cutesy, small-x-heighty, condensed display face but I want to keep it somewhat structured, lest it fall into a one-trick-pony category. Ligatures and alternates could be fun on this. My biggest concern has been getting the thicks and thins in the right places. (I've been looking at Franklin Gothic Condensed for guidance) I need some eyes on this...

Piquant 01

50pointtype's picture

In trying to keep a high contrast, some horizontals might look, say, forced. Given the two versions below, do you think the second line is an improvement?

hrant's picture

No way.

hhp

eliason's picture

If you've got that thin hairline in /a/, your thinnest parts of other letters have to at least come close to its thickness.

50pointtype's picture

Eh?

/s/ has an asymmetrical approach to terminals and is slightly more narrow
/t/ bottom terminal falls in line with /c/e/s/ and is taller

eliason's picture

Hmm. Did you try going the other direction: making bottom of /c/e/s/ conform to what you had for /t/ before? Now they seem neither here nor there.
Judging the /t/ height will require setting it next to full ascenders.

50pointtype's picture

I'm thinking something like this is the solution here. Leaving the thin strokes mostly untouched while the big "flare" terminals are blown up. i.e. Bodoni Poster

50pointtype's picture

In context:

eliason's picture

IMO those terminals need to re-thicken at the ends.

hrant's picture

Seconded.

hhp

50pointtype's picture

Top: terminals keep the same thickness throughout (roughly)
Bottom: terminals flare a little at the ends

hrant's picture

Better.

hhp

50pointtype's picture

Terminals working together:

eliason's picture

Yes, that's the right approach.

I still think /t/ could be a lot taller, given the full ascenders.

50pointtype's picture

Update: Softening up the sides on the verticals. I'm pretty sure there's no straight lines left now.

Ex:

eliason's picture

Looks good!

Catharsis's picture

Very nice.

The /c/ looks a bit too /e/-like for my taste, though.

50pointtype's picture

I'm about to wrap this sucker up, so I wanted to post my original type "specimen" in it's almost final form. Just for comparison.

eliason's picture

You've come a long way, baby.
Nice job.

LexLuengas's picture

In the bold weight /S/ is definitely too dark.
/s/ may also be a bit too thick.
/P/'s bowl could end further down. Right now it's conflicting with your lowercase, leaving a white gap (particularly noticeable if you look at /Pi/, which is relevant, if you're going to name your typeface Piquant), but I understand it's also a matter of style. Consider the option of making an alternate for the most problematic pairs.

I like how your bold /T/ compensates the shortness of the right end of the horizontal with a weight increase. Overall, congratulations! I really like the feel of it :-)

daverowland's picture

Yeah, a few of the uppercase letters in the ultrabold could do with having their counters opened somewhat, but overall, this has come on in leaps and bounds since the first post (when I already thought is was pretty good!). Nice work.

50pointtype's picture

Thanks. I appreciate all the help. Your checks will be arriving in the mail soon. ;)

(I agree w/the /P/. The style does run into an issue there. I'll look into an alternate pair.)

daverowland's picture

Congratulations on the release! The posters look great. One small thing - I don't think the flag shows it off to its full potential. Maybe a closer up example of some of the sexy curves in action would be better.

peggo's picture

I love how this looks like.. and I loved to know the path you walking to reach this result.. very clever and intricated design.. deserve a very good place between on the best.

BTW I just curious what Lex talk about /Pi/ so I tried a possibility to compensate the white space between them

so, if you like it.. could try yours :-)

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