Forgotten Kerning

filip blazek's picture

It is my pleasure to announce, my contribution to the ATypI conference in Reykjavík "Forgotten Kerning" is now online at

You can access it via menu or directly at

The text is based on my presentation in Reykjavík, Iceland, although I've slightly expanded it and modified some sections.

As Diacritics Project is wiki-based, please feel free to edit or expand the information published on the website.

The printed version of this text will be published in the next issue of TYPO Magazine #45 during October, please check for updates. Don't forget ATypI members are entitled to a discount on subscription (10% one-year, 15% two-years).

All the best from Prague,

Filip Blažek

dezcom's picture

With a hearty thank you!

eliason's picture

A helpful resource--thank you very much for posting it!

daverowland's picture

Very interesting. In English, the comma usually (but not always) goes inside the quotation marks, Lady," not Lady", but there are exceptions, so it's probably necessary to kern both ways round.
I had no idea that those 'low-9' quotation marks went before the text. I'll have to remember that!
Maybe I'll just stick everything in classes and kern every eventuality just in case.

eliason's picture

In English

I think that should read "In American English..."

daverowland's picture

No, in English English too. There are more exceptions in Britain than America though.

Té Rowan's picture

Comma placement also depends on the audience. Hacker types are sensitive to this, since punctuation in the wrong place can foul up a computer manual quite badly. See the Jargon File for more.

theplatypus's picture

Wonderful resource. I shared this with my entire department.
The Directer of Creative Services sent this email out in response:

"Read and then test your kerning skillz with this:

Note: Anyone caught wasting time with this kerning game during work hours will be publicly humiliated at a time and place of my choosing."

Bendy's picture

Bookmarked. Thank you.

PabloImpallari's picture

Excellent article!
Very informative, interesting and well presented.
More pairs to add to our test documents :)

I just reviewed a few iKerned fonts, and they seem to cover about 60-70% of this extreme pairs.

Nick Shinn's picture

The Kerntype game is horrible misinformation.
Here's an example of what the site proposes as good kerning:

eliason's picture

You're right, Nick, but you're in the wrong thread.

Nick Shinn's picture

I was responding to Daniel's mention of
The idea being that there may be a certain amount of serendipitous wandering in a thread, rather than hewing slavishly to the OP's topic.

eliason's picture

Oh, you're right, I didn't see it mentioned here too. I thought you had intended it for this other, recent thread.

Nick Shinn's picture

No, I have missed that thread.

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