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coming from the book right to be lazy... wondering what this is exactly
Looks like Times to me.
not times i think, what about the c? looking more like caslon?
That "Un dogme désastreux" is a different font than the text font above (note higher /e/ crossbar and narrower /a/).
That's a different face--some sort of Garamond. (Looks like ATF Garamond or Amsterdamer Garamont to me.)
In your first sample, that could still be Times. The hot metal Linotype Times Roman "C" looks like that in the smaller sizes. If it's an older book, it might have been set on a Linotype machine.
It could also be Dutch 801.