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Hey guys,
this is my first font (see attachment). I've just begun to start some of the characters in Ilustrator. I only have 7 characters to show you at this time. I'd like to know if anyone thinks its too similar to an existing font?
Thanks guys!
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19 Mar 2011 — 1:10am
Looks like Sassoon (a bit):
http://www.identifont.com/show?3XD
But keep glyphing!
Any idea on the licencing, yet?
19 Mar 2011 — 4:35am
@Frank: I suppose Minion looks more like Times than this glyphs look like Sassoon... :)
@nhood: Very nice, although /a/ will need a spur/terminal/tail to distinguish it from /o/. But otherwise these letters are very promising. Keep on drawing. But don't draw them too geometrically (look at /b/ for instance) but rather visually. /c/ for instance is pointing upwards even thou the top of it is probably geometrically level.
19 Mar 2011 — 11:29am
Thanks Frank,
i have no idea on licencing. In fact, i don't know exactly what that means for fonts. Do you mind giving me a summary of font licencing?
Thanks!
19 Mar 2011 — 11:33am
Hey litera,
thanks for the critiques. Would you suggest curving the top of the 'c' and 'b' down slightly?
19 Mar 2011 — 1:27pm
@nhood: Yes /c/ definitely because the stroke ends "in the air". /db/ don't have this issue (at least not to this extent.
/b/ has the other issue where the curve touches the straight line. It doesn't look smooth but rather looks as if it had an edge. The same is true for /ad/ but it's not that obvious (at least to me).
19 Mar 2011 — 3:24pm
Don't start with “abcde”. You're just playing with variations on one simple form of letter and not really pushing into a typeface. Move on to H,O,h, and o. Then move on to test words like SHOPS and hoggles. After that work on HANGLOVES/handgloves to fill out your basic forms. Once you finish that it's time to flesh out the alphabet.
19 Mar 2011 — 3:51pm
Hi Dunwich,
thats very interesting. I didn't realize that until you just pointed it out. What a great piece of advice! I will definitely do that.
Thanks DTF!
20 Mar 2011 — 7:30am
@nhood : for fonts, licencing means defining area of uses for your typeface ; unless you target branding market, your licence should be as permissive as possible, because then your typeface is meant to convoy information and as you know information is everywhere, in print, in website, withing e-books, and people need typeface which allow embedding and great freedom of use (except of use, claiming the design as their own, and sell the typeface at your expense).
most typefaces are under restrictive licences for paranoid and/or outdated conception of what a typeface is supposed to be.
But with open source, Google Fonts & allii shouting around, type industry is shifting around. As a challenger, your advantage is be proactive relative to this aspect.
See linked file below (licencing policy compared across +40 type foundries, sorry, it's in French) :
http://www.fadebiaye.com/type/comparatif_licences.pdf
21 Mar 2011 — 12:18pm
Hey Frank,
thanks for the explanation. I understand most of it. How do i begin the licensing process?
21 Mar 2011 — 3:36pm
hi nhood, it's quite simple in fact.
1. is it for branding or for text ? both is making things trickier
2. if for branding, control-freak copyright and at best, sell it as an exclusive corporate typeface
3. if for text, prepaid copyleft ; set a souscription and then release it under OFL licence ; do not run after piracy, it's a waste of time and money ; be sure to determine how much you want to earn, be paid and then release the tiger!
More information on the OFL licence here:
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
24 Mar 2011 — 11:59am
sell it as an exclusive corporate typeface
Wouldn't it make sense to actually finish designing the typeface before selling it? On the other hand, if there's a company called "cedfgab" or something like that ... ;)
27 Mar 2011 — 2:16pm
Hi Jens,
i appreciate your input very much. What exactly is an exclusive corporate typeface?
Yes, it would make sense to finish the font before selling it. I suppose i shouldn't concern myself with licensing until i'm finished.
27 Mar 2011 — 2:42pm
Exclusivity can be one of the conditions of a special End User License Agreement. A client (in this case, usually a corporation that commissioned a custom typeface for their own branding use) may wish to acquire the exclusive right to use your font, thus denying your right to sell it to anyone else, either in perpetuity, or for a specified limited time, or conditional on other circumstances; in exchange for a substantial additional fee. Exclusivity can multiply the sale price of a font license many times above your usual retail price, since it would have to compensate you for all projected sales if you were able to sell it normally.
But that's more a question for the Release forum.