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I'm just about to embark on some work in relation to an art exhibition. The exhibition is themed around the Robert Burns song 'A Slave's Lament' (for anybody who's interested, the artist, Graham Fagen, has recorded a dub version of the song with Adrian Sherwood at On-U Sound studios; the work takes the form of a music video which will be 'watched' by a group of scupltures). The work explores Scotland's rather little-known history of involvement in the slave trade.
So, typographically I'm looking for something slightly nautical- or 18th C.-looking which avoids pastiche or cliche. I'm envisioning a slightly hard-edged script face with a modern feel. First thing that took my eye was Psy/Ops' Ronsard.
The face will probably be used only for the title of the show, which is 'Clean Hands Pure Heart'.
Anybody feel like suggesting some alternatives?
R
2 Dec 2004 — 11:53am
Does Pirouette count as contemporary?
http://www.linotype.com/91918/pirouette-family.html
2 Dec 2004 — 12:04pm
Tiffany, Ryuichi Tateno was influenced by Zapf's work when he worked on this project. I've heard that Hermann Zapf is a fan of the typeface.
Zapfino's alternates are way more wicked, though.
2 Dec 2004 — 12:07pm
Dan,
I second Tiff on that. Major great stuff. That goes on my "gotta have" list.
Chris
2 Dec 2004 — 12:24pm
Maybe fabulous 'Zanzibar', by G
2 Dec 2004 — 1:20pm
How about Font Bureau's Sloop
2 Dec 2004 — 2:38pm
I like also a lot Sirenne
3 Dec 2004 — 12:34am
> slightly nautical- or 18th C.-looking which avoids pastiche or cliche.
Not sure if these fit the bill and I sure as hell don't know if they look 18th Century enough. But looking at Ronsard, I've come up with these:
T26's Opsmarckt
Lagarto from Letras Latinas. If you manage to buy this one, please lemme know how much it costs.
Penman, Penman B and Polonaise
Will you also consider something kinda distressed like Allegheny or would that be too hackneyed for the slave theme?
Platthand is nice too, no?
3 Dec 2004 — 2:21am
Wow, thanks for all this guys. I thought the thread had been 'dingied' as we say in Glasgow (rough translation: 'ignored') but obviously you were deliberating
Stephen: I think the contempory feel is more important than that the face be specifically 18th C. I guess it's misleading to mention such a specific period in the context of typography. As I'm sure you've realised, the treatment of the subject matter isn't drily historical.
To nobody in particular: I guess I'm also not keen on using distressed faces in general, and particularly not for this job -- it could all get a bit Captain Birdseye.
To Tiff, re readability: I'm not against people having to do a little bit of work to read certain things; in this case, as I wrote, I think the face will be used only for the four-word title. It's for a very visually-intelligent niche audience, who will go to the show whether they can read the title or not, so to me it's more important to offer something novel, pertinent to the subject matter but taking a new angle on it. A bit of mystery is fine.
Having said all that, David H: Zanzibar is wild. I looked at Fountain for this project but somehow managed to miss that face. I just downloaded the PDF and had a look at the full character set, and I think it could really work. It makes the right kind of visual reference, but feels like it couldn't have been designed anytime but now. Very nice indeed. The slight off-the-wallness is a bonus, too.
Maybe I'll get up the courage to post the results in Critique ...
Thanks all of you,
R
3 Dec 2004 — 10:02am
Liorah, anyone?
2 Dec 2004 — 10:21am
What about a serif with an italic that has more character than your average italic? MVB Sirenne is very nice.
2 Dec 2004 — 11:43am
You might also look at Florens by LetterPerfect at Myfonts. Has a nice set of alternate swashes.
2 Dec 2004 — 11:48am
Forgot to mention ... Florens is on sale right now ...
2 Dec 2004 — 11:59am
Dan, that is gorgeous. I'm such a sucker for alternate characters. Kinda reminds me of the tame second cousin to Linotype's Zapfino.
:^)
2 Dec 2004 — 12:40pm
I second Tiff's suggestion of Sirenne. I think it's ideal for the
nautical subject matter.
Is it more important that the script be "contemporary" or
"18th-century"? A thread title change might be in order.
2 Dec 2004 — 1:36pm
not bad
2 Dec 2004 — 1:43pm
Even though this sounds like -- is -- an historical show, the display itself sounds very modern. Is it?
If it is, I would tend toward the less decorative and elegant (?) typefaces. Sloop seems far too elegant and decorative. Zanzibar is interesting, but too much of it could leave the viewer not reading what is important. Pirouette would still work if the alternates were used strategically and sparingly.