IE9 -

russellm's picture

well?

blank's picture

This Firefox 4 Beta is great. Oh wait, IE 9? People still use IE? Are they the same people who keep showing up at Sarah Palin rallies or something?

russellm's picture

Well, no. Some of Ms. Palin's friends may be among those people who use IE, but more that half of people who use the internet use IE, regardless of their levels of education, position on any political spectrum you choose or their views on shooting Bambi, so, like it or not, you can't dismiss it just because you don't like it.

And Chrome beats Firefox. :o)

Steven Acres's picture

Chrome is the best browser I've used so far. It's awesome. Font rendering still needs work, but it's nowhere near as bad as Safari/Firefox on MacOS.

I'll try IE9 when it comes out of beta.

dtw's picture

Lots of people use IE at work because their machines are supplied with it, and their IT departments won't allow installation of alternatives... :-)

aluminum's picture

9th time is the charm?

Sye's picture

have you guys seen these? pretty sweet if you ask me.

http://jasonsantamaria.com/articles/ie9-and-the-lost-worlds-fairs/

Renaissance Man's picture

"Since you're running Windows XP, you won't be able to install Internet Explorer 9 unless you upgrade to a more recent version of Windows." —MS

Si_Daniels's picture

Will it run on MacOS 9?

riccard0's picture

"Since you're running Windows XP, you won't be able to install Internet Explorer 9 unless you upgrade to a more recent version of Windows."

Interesting.
For comparison, Safari 5 is available for Windows XP but not for Mac OS X 10.4 (nor Mac OS 9 ;-).

Renaissance Man's picture

Worldwide, Windows XP PCs outnumber all other Windows-equipped machines by two to one, according to the most recent statistics from Web metrics company Net Applications.
In August, Windows XP powered 66.7% of the globe's Windows systems that went online in the month, while the three-year-old Vista accounted for 15.3% and 2009's Windows 7 for 17.4%.
—computerworld.com

If Microsoft's new browser is as popular as the company hopes, it may reverse Internet Explorer's (IE) market share slide -- but it might also help to do something that the software giant has been trying unsuccessfully to accomplish for several years -- kill off Windows XP.
—internetnews.com

Give up XP and buy a new computer for a browser?! Mozilla and Google must be jumping for joy!

That Microsoft is keeping IE9 exclusive to those running Vista SP2 or higher seems like a foolish move that is likely to inspire millions to find an alternative browser, such as Firefox or Chrome. This could further damage IE's current supremacy of the browser market. All versions of Internet Explorer combined currently dominate with 60.4 percent of the Web browser market. Firefox has 22.93 percent, and Chrome has 7.52 percent.
—msnbc.msn.com

Microsoft has ruled out putting Internet Explorer 9 on Windows XP, leaving millions of PCs open to Mozilla and Google browsers providing hardware-accelerated rich-internet.
—theregister.co.uk

Si_Daniels's picture

>Give up XP and buy a new computer for a browser?! Mozilla and Google must be jumping for joy!

In other news... last remaining VCR maker jumps for joy as competitors move to exclusively producing DVD players. ;-)

Renaissance Man's picture

I don't think VCRs have two thirds of the recording market.

aluminum's picture

XP is 9 years old. I can't knock MS for not worrying too much about it anymore.

XP is mainly around in such large numbers due to corporate installs. MS has nothing to gain by letting those companies stay on XP. Might as well convince one or two to upgrade the OS.

apankrat's picture

And on the other news - IE falls below 50% of world wide market.

<rant>
I for one use XP as my primary OS and every time I have to use W7 or, God forbid, Vista, I cringe and suffer. It does not just look butt ugly, but it is an exemplification of the engineering by a committee. All those extra GHz my CPU acquired over the years are cheerfully wasted by Microsoft developers to make their life comfortable rather than to better my experience with the OS.

Why the hell W7 is as slow as Windows 95 on an antiquated 486 box? Why the hell cannot they pick just one UI designer and let him/her produce a consistent and attractive UI? How can as self-respecting designer release a piece of poop like this to the public and not be ashamed -


So, yeah... dumping XP for a pleasure of installing IE9 - that's not even funny.

</rant>

Richard Fink's picture

IMHO...

1) I would take those numbers with a grain of salt.

2) It might reverse as Win7 continues picks up steam and IE9 provides an experience comparable - or superior - to other browsers. (There are some things IE does better. There are.)

3) There might be some user experimentation going on as a result of the EU decision. Just remember that old habits die hard and the blue E is always there to fall back on.

4) Microsoft is perfectly willing to lose some browser market share overall. I've sensed this for a long time. I could be wrong but I don't think so.

Because a 30% market share gives them as much clout and veto power as 70% does. With much less flack, much less pressure.

Losing some browser share is no threat. But having a browser that sucks in comparison to others, most definitely is.

Lastly, remember that they are still defining the environment in which other browser makers must work.

That's my take, FWIW.

Rich

Steven Acres's picture

All those extra GHz my CPU acquired over the years are cheerfully wasted by Microsoft developers to make their life comfortable rather than to better my experience with the OS. Why the hell W7 is as slow as Windows 95 on an antiquated 486 box?

This is the nature of all technology. Try running Mac OSX on a 20 year old Apple box. It won't happen. Or any Phone's OS on a mobile phone from 2001. again, not going to happen. The kernel grows over time to accommodate for complex operations (and larger bit systems) therefore more computing power is required (and higher GHz doesn't necessarily mean more computing power.) Operating systems of today are built to be used by the technology of today. Why would they waste time optimizing a modern OS to function faster on something that an infinitesimally small amount of people would attempt?

Why the hell cannot they pick just one UI designer and let him/her produce a consistent and attractive UI? How can as self-respecting designer release a piece of poop like this to the public and not be ashamed

I, for one, am a huge fan of the new OS's look and functionality. That aside, what company has ever stuck to one look, especially in the OS world? MacOS has gone through its own evolution with a ride range of aesthetic differences. OSX looks great, too, but they didn't just pop that out of nowhere. It's been evolving for the past few decades to what it is today.

bowerbird's picture

it's time to route all internet-express users
to a page that tells them to change browsers.

across the board. all pages. all versions of i.e.

just refuse to serve them your site until they
upgrade to a better browser... i'm serious...

-bowerbird

Richard Fink's picture

And while we're at it, I think using the Internets should require a license, issued upon passing a skills test. Renewable every three years - to make sure everybody's keeping up.

Too many geezers with bad eyesight browsing around.

bowerbird's picture

richard said:
> the Internets should require a license, issued upon passing a skills test

yes! that should take care of the teabaggers, in one fell swoop!

-bowerbird

russellm's picture

just refuse to serve them your site until they
upgrade to a better browser... i'm serious...

well I guess that's it for the internet at my place of employment :o)

Sherri Keller's picture

Try running Mac OSX on a 20 year old Apple box. It won't happen. Or any Phone's OS on a mobile phone from 2001.

Steven, that's not what Alex meant. He meant that Windows 7 doesn't operate any better on new hardware than Windows 95 did on hardware from that time. The developers spend more time making things like Aero transparency instead of improving the basic system operations.

I get frustrated every time I use my boyfriend's PC. There is no reason for a new OS to be sluggish on a new laptop with 4 GB of RAM. It's ridiculous.

hrant's picture

Nothing pains me more than seeing intelligent people
seduced into disgusting blind allegiance to a corporation.

hhp

Sye's picture

Hail Steve!

Sye's picture

;-)

bowerbird's picture

russell said:
> well I guess that's it for the internet
> at my place of employment :o)

great! take the rest of the week off!

-bowerbird

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