(x) Calligraphic All Caps - Steel {Florian}

Beauclair's picture

Does anyone know this font?

Ehague's picture

Lydian of some kind.

bowfinpw's picture

I think it is Lydian as Eric says. It has been narrowed/stretched vertically, but that is the only obvious thing to me.

- Mike Yanega

eliason's picture

Hmm... I notice that compared to the linked (Bitstream) Lydian, this /A/ crossbar is high, the top of this /P/ is not horizontal, and this /G/'s crossbar extends right of the vertical.

bowfinpw's picture

Very good at details are you. We should probably look at the Monotype Lydian, since I think they were the originating foundry in it's pre-digital form.

Hmm. The same differences appear to be present. I wonder who else has a version that matches these details you noted? CG Lisbon is just like the Lydians we mentioned.

Why would someone draw something so similar to Lydian?

- Mike Yanega

Florian Hardwig's picture

This is Steel, a revival of Rudolf Koch’s Stahl, by HIT. It has been used for Liner Notes by Spector Books, Leipzig. Not released/publicly available.
There’s also a digitization of Stahl by Gerhard Helzel. I don’t know if it is any good – the website isn’t.
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bowfinpw's picture

I think it's fascinating how similar Chappell's typeface is to this one "Stahl". It wouldn't be the first time a foundry was 'inspired' by work from another foundry. According to Jaspert's Encyclopaedia Lydian was done for ATF between 1938 and 1946, not Monotype, as I had thought. McGrew's book says Lydian Bold Condensed was the last one designed. No mention is made in either book of "Stahl" as being similar.

From what I could find looking at the Klingspor Museum site, Stahl is not a Rudolf Koch design. In fact, on Linotype's page on the Klingspor Foundry's typeface collection it lists Stahl as the work of H. Kühne, in 1939, a year after Chappell's design of Lydian.

- Mike Yanega

eliason's picture

Nice work Florian!

Florian Hardwig's picture

This is what I found on a German freefont site:

Die Großbuchstaben der Stahl hat Rudolf Koch 1933 aus seiner Offenbach abgeleitet. Leider konnte er den Entwurf nicht mehr selbst vollenden. Die Fertigstellung übernahm sein Schüler Hans Kühne, der die Minuskeln entwickelte.
[Rudolf Koch has derived the capital letters for Stahl in 1933 from his Offenbach. Unfortunately, he couldn’t accomplish the design himself. The completion was taken over by his student Hans Kühne, who developed the lowercase.]
Moorstation.org

From 1931 to 1932, Warren Chappell, the designer of Lydian, was a student of Rudolf Koch in Offenbach.

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