(x) Calligraphic/Speedball face - various alternatives {Mike Y}

quadibloc's picture

The quest for a substitute for Papyrus has led me to look for candidate typefaces.

One that I found was on the box for a computer game - but try as I might, I could not identify it. Finally, I took a picture, and submitted that to MyFonts' electronic match, but although that let me find Adobe Present from the Omniglot logo, it didn't find the match for this one:

This seems to be a plain but calligraphic font... but I don't think they used hand lettering. (Although the letters did have a 3-D effect, so I suppose it's possible...)

And here's another sample. I would think this should be simple and obvious to find, but it has turned out not to be.

bowfinpw's picture

It's Jubilee from Red Rooster.

[edit: well, not quite. It's very close, as if Jubilee was the model, but details are different, especially the 'e'.]

- Mike Yanega

bowfinpw's picture

The (lack of) kerning suggests that this is an amateur font, and so I looked at Dafont and Abstract Fonts in categories I thought might include this. The closest I have found so far was something called pehuensito, Regular.

Frankly, I would consider a more skilled (professional) font, like Jubilee or Post Antiqua, rather than this poorly executed calligraphic font.

- Mike Yanega

quadibloc's picture

Frankly, I would consider a more skilled (professional) font, like Jubilee or Post Antiqua, rather than this poorly executed calligraphic font.

I'll agree with that, but while my previous searches had turned up Jubilee and Post Antiqua, I've been wishing I could find a closer match.

Post Roman might be what I'm looking for, but it doesn't seem to have been digitized, so I can't find a more extensive sample online to compare.

Jubilee is clearly a typeface, not calligraphic hand lettering.

Basically, the reason I thought that this particular style of type was a good substitute for Papyrus was because it wasn't elaborate like an uncial face, or even like Motto (compare Mikadan although that's closer to Verona, also more elaborate) or Freehand (compare Duly Noted).

So, basically, think of something like Lydian, but with just a minimum of pointy serifs added, just barely enough to say "calligraphy", while avoiding tagging the font with too specific a time and place - because that's the virtue of Papyrus.

bowfinpw's picture

Have you searched through Part 4 and 6 of my Script Font ID Guide? This is where I would have collected fonts of this kind. You may find something that fits your needs.

You can also search using 'pen-drawn' at MyFonts. That turned up Scrivano, which seems close to what I think you want.

- Mike Yanega

bowfinpw's picture

Another less-calligraphic looking, but obviously pen-drawn style is Amanda from Agfa/Monotype.

- Mike Yanega

quadibloc's picture

Have you searched through Part 4 and 6 of my Script Font ID Guide?

I have searched through Part 4, but not Part 6, so I will do so. And Scrivano and Amanda were also fonts I noticed in my frantic searches. I also referred to some print references I have as well, but I have a few others buried in clutter I need to dig out and look at.

As you've pointed out, there are letterspacing problems, so it may be that this is a very obscure font; I was hoping that there would still be a much closer match that is a real and well-known font - since the shape of the letters seemed familiar to me - but maybe I was wrong.

quadibloc's picture

And indeed I see that Part 6 is where I should have looked.

There, I encountered the closest matches yet:
Trieste, Oxalis Alternate, Oz Brush;

and some other faces that closely resemble what I was looking for:
Rana, Oak Wood, Malandra, FF Elegie Regular, Holly;

and some others I hadn't mentioned in my other posts about possible alternates to Papyrus, but which might also serve that purpose:
Polaris, Clichee, Gararond, Charon, Demi Tasse, Rhino (Mobil)

In there were also several other faces (like Ereshkigal and Prsent) that I have already noted - or acknowledged when mentioned by others - as possible Papyrus alternatives.

bowfinpw's picture

That "Malandra" is actually Maiandra. Glad that Part 6 had what you were looking for.

- Mike Yanega

quadibloc's picture

Actually, though, when I looked up the candidates there, I still didn't find a real match - for those I could find a larger illustration, it turned out they were different.

But I think you are right, and this doesn't exist as a "real" font, even if it is some obscure free font somewhere. Also, in the samples I provided, I see I failed to include one with a significant distinguishing feature of the design. The bottom right-pointing serif of the lowercase L is so big that it can be mistaken for an uppercase L. Another reason to think that it's likely just some amateur calligraphy.

But I still saw much of what I was looking for, because even if I can't find an exact match, identifying that font was just a part of my search for alternatives to Papyrus - and I did find several of those in that area.

typerror's picture

John

I am pretty sure this is a font.I scrutinized it for a while. The e's, r's etc. are all identical and the s was the crown. Notice it's backslant... in all occurrences. The only thing that perplexes me is the w. It is almost alien in weight relationships and overall weight. In my ongoing vigil to keep an eye on my fonts I search the "free" sites all the time and I have seen a number of these naive "roundhand" forms.

Michael

quadibloc's picture

I think I finally ran across the face. It appears to be "Final Roman", available on this page, which came to my attention through a discussion concerning some initials.

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