I don't know how good this is, and in fact I don't know anything about it, but Lineto has a "Courier Sans" that at least doesn't have the big serifs on "i" and "l" (and isn't monospaced). Though the "m" and such is still squeezed. Dunno. http://lineto.com/The+Fonts/Font+Categories/Text+Fonts/Courier+Sans/Regu...
What I am really looking for is a courier with the outlines and forms of a courier. @ altaira: I definetly want those long serif on i an l. @ Nick Shinn and johnbutler: I want a professionally spaced and kerned font. Setting texts in courier and than spacing and kerning - no way, I have done that but no more!
So if anyone knows of an actual version of the actual outline forms of a courier with professional spacing and kerning - please.
Courier is monospace by design, it's not just a matter of re-kerning the letters, you'd have to make a whole new typeface. The letters are designed to have the same width, making the i very wide and the m very tight. I don't really see why you'd want to make courier not monospaced. I'd rather look for typefaces that have simularities in their letterforms but are designed to not be monospaced. It will only look queer otherwise, imho.
Do you consider the monospaced Courier to be unprofessional?
No, he just means a version that is already optically spaced.
Henning is looking for a version of courier that is not monosapced, but has the same outlines.
It will only look queer otherwise, imho.
That may be, but that may also be intended.
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Might I add, intentional distortion of typographic rules is not ignorance. Is it simply unimaginable that someone might want to make something difficult, ugly, etc? After all type designers are often keen on distressed fonts, with their neurotic predetermined 'mess'. Small piles of mess neatly arranged.
You could try the Hermes family from Optimo.ch, it looks a lot like ahttp://www.optimo.ch/pages/departement/index.php?id_categorie=1&id_font=21 proportional Courier, but it doesn't *look* proportional. Also, there's Optimo Executive, which is more of a fauxnospaced sans.
Both keep a certain monospace-edgyness to the text, interestingly. Of course you lose the effect of a true monospace, and quite frankly why one would want to have some of the disadvantages of a mono without going the whole hog is a mystery to me, but whatever floats your boat.
9 Dec 2009 — 4:35am
ITC American Typewriter shares simularities with Courier, but isn't monospaced.
greetings Jeffrey
infraordinaire
9 Dec 2009 — 8:08am
Highlight a run of Courier in InDesign and turn on Optical kerning. Tada! Fun at parties.
9 Dec 2009 — 5:23pm
I don't know how good this is, and in fact I don't know anything about it, but Lineto has a "Courier Sans" that at least doesn't have the big serifs on "i" and "l" (and isn't monospaced). Though the "m" and such is still squeezed. Dunno.
http://lineto.com/The+Fonts/Font+Categories/Text+Fonts/Courier+Sans/Regu...
9 Dec 2009 — 5:27pm
Quark XPress > Utilities > Kern/Edit.
11 Dec 2009 — 6:32am
Thanks everyone for your input.
What I am really looking for is a courier with the outlines and forms of a courier. @ altaira: I definetly want those long serif on i an l. @ Nick Shinn and johnbutler: I want a professionally spaced and kerned font. Setting texts in courier and than spacing and kerning - no way, I have done that but no more!
So if anyone knows of an actual version of the actual outline forms of a courier with professional spacing and kerning - please.
11 Dec 2009 — 8:10am
Do you consider the monospaced Courier to be unprofessional?
11 Dec 2009 — 9:26am
Courier is monospace by design, it's not just a matter of re-kerning the letters, you'd have to make a whole new typeface. The letters are designed to have the same width, making the i very wide and the m very tight. I don't really see why you'd want to make courier not monospaced. I'd rather look for typefaces that have simularities in their letterforms but are designed to not be monospaced. It will only look queer otherwise, imho.
greetings Jeffrey
infraordinaire
11 Dec 2009 — 12:10pm
URW Typewriter is a proportionately widthed typewriter face.
There are several FontFonts also.
12 Dec 2009 — 8:06am
Do you consider the monospaced Courier to be unprofessional?
No, he just means a version that is already optically spaced.
Henning is looking for a version of courier that is not monosapced, but has the same outlines.
It will only look queer otherwise, imho.
That may be, but that may also be intended.
—
Might I add, intentional distortion of typographic rules is not ignorance. Is it simply unimaginable that someone might want to make something difficult, ugly, etc? After all type designers are often keen on distressed fonts, with their neurotic predetermined 'mess'. Small piles of mess neatly arranged.
14 Dec 2009 — 6:44am
You could try the Hermes family from Optimo.ch, it looks a lot like ahttp://www.optimo.ch/pages/departement/index.php?id_categorie=1&id_font=21 proportional Courier, but it doesn't *look* proportional. Also, there's Optimo Executive, which is more of a fauxnospaced sans.
Both keep a certain monospace-edgyness to the text, interestingly. Of course you lose the effect of a true monospace, and quite frankly why one would want to have some of the disadvantages of a mono without going the whole hog is a mystery to me, but whatever floats your boat.
hope that helps
Kai
Edith: fixed link tag
15 Dec 2009 — 6:28am
It floated my boat once in a flyer for 'Insider Art', a re-spaced version of Monospace 821.
Kai, Munich Re is really neat, much admiration.