I actually thought it was bastard. I got the sample character from an old flyer I did that had been converted to outlines (hence no font names). I knew it was a Barnbrook font and quickly determined it to be Bastard prior to posting it here.
After seeing your side comparison of the two I went back to an older version of the source and discovered that I actually had used a knock off version of bastard named Barnbrook Gothic. A typographic faux pas indeed. At the time I created the flyer I had no clue the font I used was not an original design.
The floor is yours Grant. Apologies to Mr. Barnbrook. Had I known better I would not have supported an intellectual property theif.
Do you think that it's a definite knockoff? Perhaps it's an earlier version of Bastard published by Jonathan himself. I don't want to lend any credence to a knockoff, but Jonathan has been known to heavily modify faces between concept and publication.
Hmm, you've made it very easy with that clue, I guess. I have never noticed that font before.
Yep, I'm from Singapore. Printing here is relatively cheap, I think, but I have never found it to be particularly enjoyable. Do you remember which printer you used?
23 Sep 2004 — 5:44pm
That's tooooootally easy: W!
24 Sep 2004 — 11:13am
lowercase a, Parkinson from Font Bureau?
http://www.fontbureau.com/fonts/font_frames.tpl?fontname=Parkinson
24 Sep 2004 — 11:14am
Your clue is excellent... Benicia Medium from Jim Parkinson... (who, I understand, drew/designed the Rolling Stone masthead).
cheers,
Dana
24 Sep 2004 — 11:21am
I couldn't decide between Benicia
and Parkinson ... hmmm, which one is
it Tiff?
24 Sep 2004 — 11:27am
okay... ... i'll put one up shortly.
24 Sep 2004 — 11:37am
Aw damm... when the lower case
24 Sep 2004 — 11:48am
Dana -- no worries ... if anyone was counting

'I.D. mistakes', i might be leading the pack.
here's the next one, which is posted
near the lunch hour here on the West Coast.
Vuole qualcosa da mangiare?
24 Sep 2004 — 1:11pm
okay, so the clues are Italian and Food.
But the face is not Italian, just the name.
It was drawn by a former student
of Petr van Blokland.
It's also one degree of separation away
from ------- -----.
bj
27 Sep 2004 — 9:43am
clue: unseen
27 Sep 2004 — 9:55am
LD spaghetti
http://www.otherways.nl/type/spaghetti.html
27 Sep 2004 — 10:05am
your turn Karl ...!
27 Sep 2004 — 10:29am
Thanks for the clue BJ.

Here's the next quiz. I would never get this one, but I suspect that it could go quickly.
27 Sep 2004 — 10:43am
The cap B from Virus' Bastard - either the Fat or the Spindly weight?
27 Sep 2004 — 10:51am
Darn, it's not a complete match. It's almost identical, but not quite... aargh.

27 Sep 2004 — 11:54am
hmm...
I actually thought it was bastard. I got the sample character from an old flyer I did that had been converted to outlines (hence no font names). I knew it was a Barnbrook font and quickly determined it to be Bastard prior to posting it here.
After seeing your side comparison of the two I went back to an older version of the source and discovered that I actually had used a knock off version of bastard named Barnbrook Gothic. A typographic faux pas indeed. At the time I created the flyer I had no clue the font I used was not an original design.
The floor is yours Grant. Apologies to Mr. Barnbrook. Had I known better I would not have supported an intellectual property theif.
27 Sep 2004 — 12:45pm
Do you think that it's a definite knockoff? Perhaps it's an earlier version of Bastard published by Jonathan himself. I don't want to lend any credence to a knockoff, but Jonathan has been known to heavily modify faces between concept and publication.
Anywho, that's another topic for discussion..
Thanks for the floor.
12 Oct 2004 — 7:39am
27 Sep 2004 — 12:53pm
Is it a glyph in Klingon?
27 Sep 2004 — 1:10pm
Does Klingon have a lower case
27 Sep 2004 — 7:20pm
1) It is not a Klingon glyph.
2) The Klingon character set does not contain a lowercase n.
3) If it did, this would not be it.
However...
The word Klingon could possibly offer a clue as to which character this is.
28 Sep 2004 — 7:40am
Capitol K, script face . . . Processing . . . .
28 Sep 2004 — 11:14am
Cap K, yes.
Script face, no.
Italic? Perhaps.
29 Sep 2004 — 12:58pm
Ok, a clue perhaps?
Fuente a partir del diecinueveavo siglo.
29 Sep 2004 — 1:14pm
Sorry, Grant, but it's "decimonoveno"
29 Sep 2004 — 2:46pm
Oops, that would be my very poor
29 Sep 2004 — 4:21pm
...Sudtipos Isla ?
29 Sep 2004 — 6:38pm
Yes, indeed.
Take it away Ignacio ...
30 Sep 2004 — 3:11am
Buena pista Grant.

30 Sep 2004 — 6:08am
Wrong character and face Yves, but you got it in there...
30 Sep 2004 — 6:18am
Si Yves, muy bien. Tu turno ...
30 Sep 2004 — 6:44am
Yipes! Settle down there Yves, you're going to pull a muscle or something.
6 Oct 2004 — 1:26am
I never noticed the Salut X!
Yves, Is it an 'S'?
6 Oct 2004 — 6:28pm
Yves ... your clues point to Garagefonts.
Is it Out, the Lefty version?
6 Oct 2004 — 6:56pm
Sure looks like it.
But why does his clues point to Garagefonts?
6 Oct 2004 — 7:18pm
"the occasional clunky face"

"grunge deconstruction"
Plus, Troubleman probably started as a
garage band.
7 Oct 2004 — 1:37am
good clues, put they pale in comparison
to the Frat clues ...
I'll post one before I go to bed.
And Yves, please take that (sic!) back.
(friendly wink)
'Started' says the same thing as 'started out',
but saves a redundant word.
Nothing worse than a (sic) in a casual
forum, but especially when it's incorrect.
I think someone did the (sic) on Cheshire
and it touched a nerve. We're both writers
7 Oct 2004 — 1:39am
^ referring to your first (sic!)
:P
7 Oct 2004 — 1:42am
clue: it's no longer new
7 Oct 2004 — 10:47am
I'd forgotten all abOUT that...!
(no, seriously, I had to do a Google search to find that thread...)
7 Oct 2004 — 2:31pm
Two more clues:
* this is an alternate K.
* the font's name had to be changed,
presumably for legal reasons.
8 Oct 2004 — 12:52pm
leafing you a golden clue:
It's from a "multi-talented Englishman" based
in Southern California.
9 Oct 2004 — 9:37am
John Studden, Classic Roman?
9 Oct 2004 — 9:40am
(From LetterHead Fonts)
9 Oct 2004 — 2:20pm
Tom, it's all yours. Classic Roman was originally
called New Trajan.
http://letterheadfonts.com/contributors/johnstudden/classicroman.shtml
9 Oct 2004 — 3:53pm
Boy I sure can google.

Here's an old one.
9 Oct 2004 — 9:05pm
Okay, here are couple more slices.

And a hint: it's named for a guy who said he had discovered the Garden of Eden (which he said was shaped like a woman's nipple).
That should make it very easy.
10 Oct 2004 — 6:52pm
Have I killed the conversation? Was it something I said?

Would it help if I mentioned that the face was chosen because it is relevant to today?
Here's another slice.
10 Oct 2004 — 7:47pm
Is it Columbus?
10 Oct 2004 — 7:55pm
Bravo, Karen!
Tomorrow is Columbus Day in the USA (or Indigenous People's Day, as we call it in Berkeley).
This is Columbus MT, designed by Patricia Saunders and issued by Monotype in 1993.
BTW, I enjoyed printing in Singapore a few years ago. I think that's your home base, no?
You have the floor.
10 Oct 2004 — 9:43pm
Hmm, you've made it very easy with that clue, I guess. I have never noticed that font before.
Yep, I'm from Singapore. Printing here is relatively cheap, I think, but I have never found it to be particularly enjoyable. Do you remember which printer you used?
Now, I have to find a nice letter to post.