The Return of The Son of The Type ID Pop Quiz - The Sequel

Bald Condensed
18.Sep.2004 4.28pm
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A little challenge in case anyone's bored during the weekend. :-)



Bald Condensed
19.Sep.2004 3.12pm
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Hmmm... You all seem to have pretty exciting weekends.


nicolai
19.Sep.2004 3.22pm
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Not this guy!

"r"?


Bald Condensed
20.Sep.2004 12.28am
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YES!!! Nicolai, you're just too good!


Bald Condensed
22.Sep.2004 3.32pm
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<chirping_crickets>






</chirping_crickets>


Bald Condensed
22.Sep.2004 3.41pm
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This friendly, chubby typeface doesn't fear the cold.


Miss Tiffany
22.Sep.2004 4.14pm
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Peter Bruhn's Ketchupa?


Bald Condensed
23.Sep.2004 2.47pm
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Tiff, I was starting to despair! Yes indeedy, one of the friendliest
faces I've ever met, included in the wonderful Imbiss Package.
The Mayo Dingbats are da bomb! Peter must've had loads of
fun designing those. :-)

The floor is yours.


Miss Tiffany
23.Sep.2004 5.39pm
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That ampersand is one of the cutest ampersands in all the ampersands available. :-)

Ok this might be too easy.


cheshiredave
23.Sep.2004 5.44pm
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That's tooooootally easy: W!


Miss Tiffany
23.Sep.2004 5.46pm
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there is no sneaking the truth past you chesh! :^D


Miss Tiffany
24.Sep.2004 10.59am
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How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown


beejay
24.Sep.2004 11.13am
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dana
24.Sep.2004 11.14am
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Your clue is excellent... Benicia Medium from Jim Parkinson... (who, I understand, drew/designed the Rolling Stone masthead).

cheers,
Dana


beejay
24.Sep.2004 11.21am
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I couldn't decide between Benicia
and Parkinson ... hmmm, which one is
it Tiff?


Miss Tiffany
24.Sep.2004 11.22am
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dana! so close!! i always feel lame for not coming up with cool clues. glad you liked this one. --- oops! I see bj just got it right!


beejay
24.Sep.2004 11.27am
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okay... ... i'll put one up shortly.


dana
24.Sep.2004 11.37am
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Aw damm... when the lower case


beejay
24.Sep.2004 11.48am
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Dana -- no worries ... if anyone was counting
'I.D. mistakes', i might be leading the pack. :-)

here's the next one, which is posted
near the lunch hour here on the West Coast.

Vuole qualcosa da mangiare?


beejay
24.Sep.2004 1.11pm
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okay, so the clues are Italian and Food.
But the face is not Italian, just the name.
It was drawn by a former student
of Petr van Blokland.

It's also one degree of separation away
from ------- -----.

bj


beejay
27.Sep.2004 9.43am
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clue: unseen


typotect
27.Sep.2004 9.55am
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beejay
27.Sep.2004 10.05am
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your turn Karl ...!


typotect
27.Sep.2004 10.29am
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Thanks for the clue BJ.

Here's the next quiz. I would never get this one, but I suspect that it could go quickly.

quizzle muh nizzle


Grant Hutchinson
27.Sep.2004 10.43am
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The cap B from Virus' Bastard - either the Fat or the Spindly weight?


Grant Hutchinson
27.Sep.2004 10.51am
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Darn, it's not a complete match. It's almost identical, but not quite... aargh.


typotect
27.Sep.2004 11.54am
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hmm...

I actually thought it was bastard. I got the sample character from an old flyer I did that had been converted to outlines (hence no font names). I knew it was a Barnbrook font and quickly determined it to be Bastard prior to posting it here.

After seeing your side comparison of the two I went back to an older version of the source and discovered that I actually had used a knock off version of bastard named Barnbrook Gothic. A typographic faux pas indeed. At the time I created the flyer I had no clue the font I used was not an original design.

The floor is yours Grant. Apologies to Mr. Barnbrook. Had I known better I would not have supported an intellectual property theif.


Grant Hutchinson
27.Sep.2004 12.45pm
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Do you think that it's a definite knockoff? Perhaps it's an earlier version of Bastard published by Jonathan himself. I don't want to lend any credence to a knockoff, but Jonathan has been known to heavily modify faces between concept and publication.

Anywho, that's another topic for discussion..

Thanks for the floor.


cheshiredave
27.Sep.2004 12.53pm
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Is it a glyph in Klingon?


dana
27.Sep.2004 1.10pm
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Does Klingon have a lower case


Grant Hutchinson
27.Sep.2004 7.20pm
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1) It is not a Klingon glyph.
2) The Klingon character set does not contain a lowercase n.
3) If it did, this would not be it.

However...

The word Klingon could possibly offer a clue as to which character this is.


Diner
28.Sep.2004 7.40am
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Capitol K, script face . . . Processing . . . .


Grant Hutchinson
28.Sep.2004 11.14am
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Cap K, yes.
Script face, no.
Italic? Perhaps.


Grant Hutchinson
29.Sep.2004 12.58pm
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Ok, a clue perhaps?

Fuente a partir del diecinueveavo siglo.


defrancisco
29.Sep.2004 1.14pm
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Sorry, Grant, but it's "decimonoveno" :-)


Grant Hutchinson
29.Sep.2004 2.46pm
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Oops, that would be my very poor


Ignacio
29.Sep.2004 4.21pm
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...Sudtipos Isla ?


Grant Hutchinson
29.Sep.2004 6.38pm
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Yes, indeed.

Take it away Ignacio ...


Ignacio
30.Sep.2004 3.11am
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Buena pista Grant.

quiz


Bald Condensed
30.Sep.2004 5.43am
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Ow ow ow ow I know! Einhorn, capital E, by Alan Meeks (1980)
based on H. Machler's Salut (1931). :-)


Ignacio
30.Sep.2004 6.08am
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Wrong character and face Yves, but you got it in there...


Bald Condensed
30.Sep.2004 6.12am
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Argh!!! Salut, capital X, deviously cropped?


Ignacio
30.Sep.2004 6.18am
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Si Yves, muy bien. Tu turno ... :-)


Grant Hutchinson
30.Sep.2004 6.44am
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Yipes! Settle down there Yves, you're going to pull a muscle or something.


Bald Condensed
30.Sep.2004 7.00am
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Now that was some clever cropping, Ignacio: you completely
fooled me into thinking it was the Einhorn uc 'E'. All right, what
to post, what to post? (think think think think)


Bald Condensed
2.Oct.2004 2.44pm
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(... snooze snooze snooze snooze oops!)


Bald Condensed
6.Oct.2004 12.46am
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Aw, it's not that hard, is it? Come on people, don't block me out. :-(
I mean, I'm showing you almost the complete glyph!


karen
6.Oct.2004 1.26am
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I never noticed the Salut X!

Yves, Is it an 'S'?


Bald Condensed
6.Oct.2004 1.49am
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Yay, we have a (partial) winner! :-) Hi Karen, how're things in
Singapore?

Now which typeface would this be? I know I sometimes appear
to be an outspoken advocate of fine (not to be confused with
"classic" typography) but I really like the occasional clunky face,
a heritage from my being exposed to grunge deconstruction at
an impressionable age.

Case in point, this is the Troubleman house face, commonly used
on our gig posters and CD covers.


beejay
6.Oct.2004 6.28pm
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Yves ... your clues point to Garagefonts.

Is it Out, the Lefty version?


karen
6.Oct.2004 6.56pm
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Sure looks like it.

But why does his clues point to Garagefonts?


beejay
6.Oct.2004 7.18pm
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"the occasional clunky face"
"grunge deconstruction"


Plus, Troubleman probably started as a
garage band. :-)


Bald Condensed
7.Oct.2004 1.14am
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Haha, my clues were a lot less subtle than that, BJ!
"Come on people, don't block me out."
(...) an outspoken advocate of fine (...)"
Every new entry was going to have the word "out" in it.

But you're right, we started out (sic!) as a garage band.
Now we've gone all smoove on the ladies and play
delicate pop songs... :-)


Bald Condensed
7.Oct.2004 1.29am
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BTW Linkety link. The design sports some technical mistakes, but
I still like Joshua & Timothy's work. Index and Locus are yummy.

BTW2 I've always been fascinated about the minute details
that differentiate a great deconstructed face from a rubbish one.
It's not quantifiable, as technical quality and design usually go
straight out (sic!) of the window when talking about grunge type.
It's more like alchemy or poetry.


beejay
7.Oct.2004 1.37am
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good clues, put they pale in comparison
to the Frat clues ...

I'll post one before I go to bed.

And Yves, please take that (sic!) back.
(friendly wink)

'Started' says the same thing as 'started out',
but saves a redundant word.

Nothing worse than a (sic) in a casual
forum, but especially when it's incorrect.

:-) :-) :-)

I think someone did the (sic) on Cheshire
and it touched a nerve. We're both writers


beejay
7.Oct.2004 1.39am
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^ referring to your first (sic!)

:P


beejay
7.Oct.2004 1.42am
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clue: it's no longer new


Bald Condensed
7.Oct.2004 1.42am
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Everyone's a critic...



Anyways, my English is far better than your Japanese! Hah!


cheshiredave
7.Oct.2004 10.47am
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I'd forgotten all abOUT that...!

(no, seriously, I had to do a Google search to find that thread...)


beejay
7.Oct.2004 2.31pm
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Two more clues:

* this is an alternate K.
* the font's name had to be changed,
presumably for legal reasons.


beejay
8.Oct.2004 12.52pm
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leafing you a golden clue:
It's from a "multi-talented Englishman" based
in Southern California.


xensen
9.Oct.2004 9.37am
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John Studden, Classic Roman?


xensen
9.Oct.2004 9.40am
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(From LetterHead Fonts)


beejay
9.Oct.2004 2.20pm
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Tom, it's all yours. Classic Roman was originally
called New Trajan.

http://letterheadfonts.com/contributors/johnstudden/classicroman.shtml


xensen
9.Oct.2004 3.53pm
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Boy I sure can google.

Here's an old one.

mystery glyph view 1


xensen
9.Oct.2004 9.05pm
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Okay, here are couple more slices.

And a hint: it's named for a guy who said he had discovered the Garden of Eden (which he said was shaped like a woman's nipple).

That should make it very easy.

slice 2

slice 3


xensen
10.Oct.2004 6.52pm
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Have I killed the conversation? Was it something I said?

Would it help if I mentioned that the face was chosen because it is relevant to today?

Here's another slice.

slice 4


karen
10.Oct.2004 7.47pm
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Is it Columbus?


xensen
10.Oct.2004 7.55pm
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Bravo, Karen!

Tomorrow is Columbus Day in the USA (or Indigenous People's Day, as we call it in Berkeley).

This is Columbus MT, designed by Patricia Saunders and issued by Monotype in 1993.

BTW, I enjoyed printing in Singapore a few years ago. I think that's your home base, no?

You have the floor.


karen
10.Oct.2004 9.43pm
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Hmm, you've made it very easy with that clue, I guess. I have never noticed that font before.

Yep, I'm from Singapore. Printing here is relatively cheap, I think, but I have never found it to be particularly enjoyable. Do you remember which printer you used?

Now, I have to find a nice letter to post.


karen
11.Oct.2004 2.06am
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I'm back.

I don't know if you guys will find this easy or difficult.


Bald Condensed
11.Oct.2004 2.39am
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Oh, a sad lc "g"... :-(


karen
11.Oct.2004 7.37am
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It's an lc g alright. I don't know about sad.

It's lower counter (?) is very compressed.

Another clue: It's based on woodtype.


cheshiredave
11.Oct.2004 8.27am
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I think Yves was talking about the droopy ear, which instantly reminded me of Droopy Dog...

droopy


xensen
11.Oct.2004 10.32am
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Karen, I printed with CS Graphics. I guess it wasn't the press check I enjoyed so much as Singapore itself.


xensen
11.Oct.2004 10.55am
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The g resembles Deadwood a bit, with the droopy ear and compressed lower counter.


xensen
11.Oct.2004 12.34pm
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It also resembles an ant ...

anarchy ant


xensen
11.Oct.2004 12.38pm
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(I guess to credit the artist I should mention I borrowed the ant from here)


karen
11.Oct.2004 7.03pm
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OK, the lower counter here.



Another clue: It's from a one man foundry.


karen
11.Oct.2004 7.07pm
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Oh yes, btw Singapore is a lot of fun. Everyone should visit someday. :-) Lots of little nooks and crannies that it's not known for.


karen
11.Oct.2004 10.57pm
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No players?

Here's the full letter.


karen
12.Oct.2004 6.06am
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Another glyph



Btw, please help me out, I'm compiling type links here. Just add to the comments.


Bald Condensed
12.Oct.2004 6.11am
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Now that is a very happy 7 to go with tha sad g. Look how it grins! :-)
A whole range of emotions in one single typeface...


karen
12.Oct.2004 6.24am
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Hey Yves, I'm sure you have some good type links to add to my comments. ;-)


peterbruhn
12.Oct.2004 6.31am
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karen
12.Oct.2004 6.54am
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Bingo!!!

It's yours Peter.


Grant Hutchinson
12.Oct.2004 7.39am
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Butylated Hydroxtoluene


peterbruhn
12.Oct.2004 7.39am
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Quizzzzzz

good luck


karen
12.Oct.2004 7.51am
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No clues?


Miss Tiffany
12.Oct.2004 9.36am
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cap T


Miss Tiffany
12.Oct.2004 9.40am
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errm...no, Cap E


beejay
13.Oct.2004 12.11am
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Is it a 5?
Is it a 5 from Dead History?


peterbruhn
13.Oct.2004 1.01am
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Yes BJ it's a 5 :-)

No it's not Dead History,
but it's ...delightfully historical.

here:s another part of it:

ziuq


karen
13.Oct.2004 11.10pm
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Is it from a Swedish foundry?


beejay
15.Oct.2004 12.07pm
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Peter, is there an Italian connection?

and your avatar is nice ...

Feeling Naked Without a Font


peterbruhn
16.Oct.2004 10.42am
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Yes, guesses - I thought the whole thread went dead there for a few days :-D

Karen: No, no swedish foundry
BJ: Molto bene, yes there's an italian connection..and an english.

Getting closer.


peterbruhn
19.Oct.2004 6.27am
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No guesses?

Usually my leads are too easy.

OK, here's a part from another character:
q1e1

The typeface is a custom job, based on old ideas.


peterbruhn
23.Oct.2004 4.10pm
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still no guesses?


Bald Condensed
24.Oct.2004 12.39pm
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If it's a custom job, is it possible it is not commonly available
and therefore difficult to identify? I really haven't got a clue.


eriks
24.Oct.2004 1.16pm
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Could be one of those weird Italian Old Style jobs. Appeared under different names, from National through Colin Brignall


peterbruhn
24.Oct.2004 1.55pm
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It's a bit hard because it's not commonly seen. But if you read your Typographica regulary you might have seen it.

And there's some far fetched clues in my answers too. (Sometimes too far fetched I must admit).

The font is an englishman in Italy, so to speak.

Maybe I should've shown a Storm face as usual,
but then it just takes about 20 sec before there's a correct answer :-D


Stephen Coles
24.Oct.2004 2.06pm
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Mattioli 1885 from Molotro.


peterbruhn
24.Oct.2004 2.28pm
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hahaha:-D oki not 20 seconds, but 660.
OK Mr. Coles - the quiz is all yours.


Stephen Coles
24.Oct.2004 3.54pm
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I am honored to have finally captured the quiz after years of
absence and pleased that my 2000th post includes a glyph bit
from one of my favorite faces. Also: welcome Erik, this one
might be more up your alley.


Bald Condensed
25.Oct.2004 2.06pm
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Oooooh, nifty little ink traps. Is this a German eszet perchance?


Stephen Coles
25.Oct.2004 2.38pm
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Yessir.


Grant Hutchinson
25.Oct.2004 5.45pm
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If I didn't know better, I'd bet my duck that it was a version of Berthold City Bold - but certainly not the Adobe or current BQ editions. Is this a photofilm variation, perchance?


Stephen Coles
25.Oct.2004 6.44pm
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It is a digital font currently available from a (sort of) living foundry.


eriks
26.Oct.2004 4.34am
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Scangraphic left the phototype inktraps in their digital fonts...
Can


Bald Condensed
26.Oct.2004 4.40am
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Yeah, they did a great job making both BodyType and
Headline SuperType versions of their fonts, which was
quite sophisticated for digital type in those days.

So could this be Scangraphic typeface? Hm ... Lemmecheck. :-)


jmc
26.Oct.2004 5.15am
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I'm pretty sure we've seen this face here recently as a new release (the soft and mild forms Oldenbourg came to mind then) but I can't recall...


Grant Hutchinson
26.Oct.2004 6.54am
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Well, if it is a Scangraphic face, it has got to be Cyklop Bold


eriks
26.Oct.2004 8.12am
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But that is what i implied a few posts ago: we knew it was Berthold


Bald Condensed
26.Oct.2004 8.27am
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I guess we'll have to wait for Stephen or Chesh (creator of this
silly timewaster) for a judge ruling on this. :-)


quote:

has only escaped Harvey Hunt



Now that's irony in my book: the ludicrous bugger is so
busy hunting down fonts with names that vaguely resemble
Berthold trademarks and people who might say something
not to his liking that he doesn't notice the obvious renamed
versions sitting right in front of him!

I'm half expecting my cease and desist letter from his (most
probably very rich) lawyers now.


Stephen Coles
26.Oct.2004 12.21pm
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I give it to Erik for getting there first. And not just because he's my pseudo-boss.
Grant had the right family. It's Cyklop Bold SB, which is Scangraphic's
"book" version of the face (hence the ink traps not available in City).

Serve up, Herr Spiekermann!


Grant Hutchinson
26.Oct.2004 1.27pm
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No complaints from me. I bow to the pseudo-boss.


eriks
28.Oct.2004 2.59pm
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Serve up, Herr Spiekermann!

Sorry, folks. A bit busy right now. I


Bald Condensed
1.Nov.2004 12.05pm
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Bump goes the thread, back to the top of the list, far away
from archive limbo. :-)


paul d hunt
2.Jun.2005 7.30pm
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wakey wakey...


Grant Hutchinson
2.Jun.2005 8.02pm
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Paul, I’m ready to roll if you are.

Why don’t you serve up something in lieu of Herr Spiekermann?


paul d hunt
2.Jun.2005 8.31pm
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he he.
this is probably big-time cheating, but here goes:
http://photos9.flickr.com/17175219_8703596a1f_o.gif


Bald Condensed
3.Jun.2005 12.29am
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Hey! No fair! Joe and I agreed just yesterday that we were going to revive the Type ID Pop Quiz as soon as the possibility to upload images would be back! Now you stole our thunder! :-D


Grant Hutchinson
3.Jun.2005 3.19pm
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But when is that functionality arriving, my dear Yves? When?

We’re dyin’ here...


Miss Tiffany
3.Jun.2005 3.30pm
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Is that a cap Q?


Bald Condensed
3.Jun.2005 4.04pm
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Don’t shoot the messenger! :-D

I haven’t got anything to do with coding, I just tell you guys what I’m told.


paul d hunt
3.Jun.2005 7.37pm
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a ’q,’ but not a cap... not a small cap either.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28786002@N00/17318919/


paul d hunt
6.Jun.2005 9.01am
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i thought the “cheating” comment would give it away, but this one should tip someone off, i hope...

http://flickr.com/photos/28786002@N00/17817904/


Miss Tiffany
6.Jun.2005 9.41am
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LTC Goudy Oldstyle Cursize — That is a gorgeous q


paul d hunt
6.Jun.2005 9.46am
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yay! yer up, miss tiff. i might like the bold version even better, these were fun to draw... at 5am one morning...


Miss Tiffany
7.Jun.2005 10.05am
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This round will be sponsored by the letter t

http://photos12.flickr.com/18023143_50f314441e.jpg?v=0


Miss Tiffany
7.Jun.2005 3.38pm
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Beatrice Warde could very well have something to say about this typeface.


karenhuang
7.Jun.2005 6.40pm
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Something to do with Jean Jannon?

Although Storm Type’s Jannon is the closest I got, and the terminal looks kinda different.


timd
8.Jun.2005 12.54am
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Lower case t Poetica Supp Lowercase Endings I?


karenhuang
8.Jun.2005 7.44am
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Nah. We’re both wrong. This “t” has a very straight cross bar.


karenhuang
8.Jun.2005 7.59am
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I’m guessing Garamond Premier Pro? It comes with 34 fonts... so there’s a good chance it has something with endings? Although I haven’t been able to get hold of the char set pdf.


Miss Tiffany
8.Jun.2005 9.00am
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Karen, congrats. You are right. It is Garamond Premier Pro Italic Display with stylistic alternates turned on. :^D Your turn.


karenhuang
8.Jun.2005 8.47pm
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What??? I haven’t even seen that font!

Do you have the pdfs??? I can’t find it anywhere.

Today must be my lucky day!!!

Always over-punctuate when excited.


Miss Tiffany
9.Jun.2005 8.51am
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Well, you are a great guess then. Here’s a sample for you.


karenhuang
10.Jun.2005 2.19am
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karenhuang
10.Jun.2005 6.46am
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Oh, identify any of the two and the round is yours.

Both are fonts by typophiles.


Grant Hutchinson
10.Jun.2005 4.10pm
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Is the ligature from Letraset’s Eplica?


karenhuang
10.Jun.2005 8.37pm
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Nope. Both of them are fairly recent fonts. I think the ligature one was released in October last year. It also came from the guy who gave us Helvetica Flair.

And the first one is a custom font that is now for sale, it is also a Dutch font.


formlos
10.Jun.2005 10.38pm
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Could the 1st one beInsider’, by René Verkaart / Characters.. :)
( Oh, And the 2nd one may beGrad’, by Phil Martin + Mark Simonson.. :)

Oh, And Thanks for those hints, Karen.. :)


karenhuang
11.Jun.2005 10.47am
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Yup! Got both right, formlos. You’re up next!


formlos
11.Jun.2005 11.24am
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Thank you, Karen.. Oki, Ill proudly ’serve’ then.: :)
www.formlos.net/Tmp/TRoTSoTTIDPQTS/B


karenhuang
11.Jun.2005 8.19pm
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No clues?


formlos
11.Jun.2005 11.14pm
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Well, Its an UPPERCASE character, first of all.. :)


formlos
12.Jun.2005 11.19am
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Another hint may be that the ’Designer’ is German..


James Gareth
12.Jun.2005 11.39am
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Bodoni Classic Chancery by Gert Wiescher


formlos
12.Jun.2005 11.52am
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Of course, it is.. Bodoni Classic Chancery ’B’, by Gert Wiescher..
You serve, James..
:)


James Gareth
12.Jun.2005 12.12pm
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Danke Dav :)

Shouldn’t be too difficult.

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formlos
12.Jun.2005 12.23pm
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Bitteschoen, James.. :)

Could yours be a ’Baskervill’ish’ ’2’.? Hmm..


James Gareth
12.Jun.2005 12.32pm
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’Tis a two.


James Gareth
13.Jun.2005 8.39am
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Okay ... the dearth of guesses prompts some more clues.

It is a “2”
Designed by a famous American designer ...
Is not obscure.


James Gareth
15.Jun.2005 10.37am
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Okay ... Seems this contest is in a bit of a mire. |
The story so far ...

It is a “2”
Designed by a famous American Designer
Is not Obscure

These new clues should give it away ...

Famous Designer’s name rhymes with bones
Font in question was used in Rolling Stone Magazine


formlos
15.Jun.2005 11.22am
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James Gareth
15.Jun.2005 11.26am
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Hightower indeed. Back to you, Dav :)


formlos
15.Jun.2005 11.31am
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Thanks.. Up for a round of ’Typographic Ping Pong’, James.? :)
( Ill try to post a new sample within the next few minutes.. )


James Gareth
22.Jun.2005 12.46pm
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I see the ID Contest has lost its lustre. Alas, I guess it is typographic ping pong, Dav. I’ll guess Times ...


formlos
22.Jun.2005 9.54pm
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It is.. ’Times New Roman’..

( As it was ’Times’, I think you were right about the ’The Return of The Son of The Type ID Pop Quiz - The Sequel’ being paused at least.. Sleep well, little thread.. :)


paul d hunt
15.Sep.2005 6.37am
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wakey wakey! who’s up?


Miss Tiffany
19.Sep.2005 7.03pm
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We should make a typophile flickr group and do the quiz over there.