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Inspired by the funky Romanian 'A's of the images posted by Florinf (for example here), I have begun to develop a single-case font. Where uppercase and lowercase conventional forms of a given letter differ, I've tried to make hybrid letters that borrow from both forms.
The results are far from graceful, but interesting and more readable than I expected. Does this have any potential?

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15 Jan 2010 — 11:23am
You mean the loop is too narrow, or the letter as a whole?
p.s. 300th post of the thread award to Bendy!
15 Jan 2010 — 11:29am
The loop.
How does this strike you? Not sure of the stress pattern but I like the way the uppercase M is more apparent.
15 Jan 2010 — 12:46pm
That may be promising, if I can supress the distraction of the diamond somehow, which I think makes it rather harder to read in context.
Here is my previous narrow one, my take on your diamond idea, and a version that tries to be more diamondy while avoiding angular corners on the sides of the loop.
(The thins on the latter two are yet too thick, but this gives you the idea.)
15 Jan 2010 — 1:17pm
I think that's getting there, the last one. Nice work, Craig.
15 Jan 2010 — 1:27pm
The last one seems the one that better flows with the rest of the lettershapes.
18 Jan 2010 — 5:55pm
Good, here's a go at swash versions of it.
And here's some experiments with ligatures.
21 Jan 2010 — 1:02pm
What do you think of this third T.init?
21 Jan 2010 — 1:24pm
Yes. Really good solution to the dark join. Yes.
21 Jan 2010 — 2:54pm
Lovely blackletter! Just when you'd think you've seen it all... ;-)
22 Jan 2010 — 1:48pm
Riccardo, thanks for that comment, which got me reflecting on the top part of this T, and how the contrast pattern is really alien to the font. Another light bulb went off and I realized that not only this piece, but almost every other part of the font that didn't look quite right to my eye has the identical problem: a stroke that modulates like a broad-nib rather than split-nib pen (i.e. that uses translation rather than expansion). Moreover, some of the things I was most excited about (like that reversed Y tail) take a more daring approach to more sudden expansion of stroke. So I've been rethinking a bunch of glyphs, most especially those with prominent horizontals (TLZ257). Feels like a real breakthrough. I'll post an update some time soon.
22 Jan 2010 — 11:21pm
Okay, new pdf up top. And below is a shot of some of the new or adjusted letters.
Check out the swash /T/s on the fourth row!
(Obviously that Z.init swash on the fifth row needs rethinking.)
Besides the f-ligs (which are actually set not to appear in swashed text) and the 25 and the percent & permille, these are all swash forms.
23 Jan 2010 — 5:47am
Wow!
This is completely amazing.
23 Jan 2010 — 3:08pm
Thanks Bendy, I thought you would appreciate that. I was beaming when that solution came to me.
24 Jan 2010 — 3:11am
I still maintain that you could do something along these lines with X.medi swash:
(sorry for the horrible crudeness of the sample)
24 Jan 2010 — 1:06pm
That kind of X would probably require designing and complex coding for eight different glyphs: init forms preceding letters with and without ascenders, fina forms following letters with and without descenders, medi forms following letters with descenders and preceding letters with ascenders, or following letters without descenders and preceding letters with ascenders, or following letters with descenders and preceding letters without ascenders, or following letters without desenders and preceding letters without ascenders.
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Okay, I'll do it!
:-)
24 Jan 2010 — 2:57pm
Here are all those new swash Xs.
I hate to say it (since coding these permutations alone is already going to make my head explode), but: doesn't XI scream for another ligature? :-\
(* the last line is the old X.init and X.fina for comparison)
24 Jan 2010 — 3:20pm
What can I say? I like them all! :-)
And, sure, that XI ligature is tempting.
25 Jan 2010 — 7:11am
X_I ligs
25 Jan 2010 — 12:06pm
Crazy. Looks at all those loops!
I think the N is too wide.
25 Jan 2010 — 12:25pm
Oh boy, I just realised that you've done a lot of amazing work on this since I last read and contributed to this thread. I just want to say I'm mightily impressed by your work, and your stamina. I'm not sure if I dare offer too much critiquing help at this stage, though. As I'm still learning how to make basic letterforms, typographic ornamentation at this level is something I simply do not feel I have much knowledge on.
Still, that "t" in "marxist" is glorious. It looks like the SW ball of the "XI" and "XI" ligatures should go a little deeper, optically they sit a little high on the baseline, I think. That new "M" shape is wicked. And I think I have to second Tiffany's view on the "N", though then the "U" is probably a little wide too. Make sure their widths are harmonious with the width of the "H".
Keep it up! How many glyphs do you have now?
25 Jan 2010 — 12:41pm
You may be right. I'm trying to fudge the width between the lowercase and uppercase forms, but I may have missed it. I think the hump breaks into vertical too high and/or too suddenly at the northeast, too.
Here's a taste of the fun I'm having with the OpenType programming:
25 Jan 2010 — 12:51pm
It sits at 210 glyphs; that will grow quite a bit when I get to adding the diacritics. I don't know how it got so big considering there's no lowercase! :-)
Don't be modest about your critical authority, your suggestions are always helpful and welcome.
25 Jan 2010 — 1:15pm
New Z.init
26 Jan 2010 — 1:57pm
Amazing! Haven't been here for some time, and now I see all this!
When, oh when is this going to be a font we can all use? (Could even be a "normal" ttf)
:-)
27 Jan 2010 — 9:02pm
Wait a second! The swashes automatically change depending on the position in the word?
Is the code that does that included in swsh?
Is it a lot of coding?
Can you still use classes?
I love how the brackets are almost monoline. The whole thing is looking beautiful, but I think it was a great idea to add the swashes. The typeface looks very useful and the open-type features make sense.
Good stuff.
28 Jan 2010 — 9:30am
@ kyrmse: Thanks for the encouragement. It feels like it's entering the home stretch, but unfortunately I can't give a deadline for release more specific than "soonish"!
@johnnydib: Thanks to you too. Yes, with the font set for swash, it will recognize when a letter appears at the beginning, middle, or end of a word. By that I mean I've had to program it that way, with a byzantine (and probably laughably inefficient) set of rules I made up myself. Here's a thread I started which helped along the way:
http://typophile.com/node/60990
So it starts with one lookup that says ignore these rules for anything with a letter preceding this one (to separate out the initial positions), then if it's an X before an ascender, use the special X.init, else if it's a K or R before a descender, use the special K.init or R.init, else replace the letter with its .init version. (Yes, you can use opentype classes and would really need to to stay sane.)
Then it has a lookup that says ignore these rules for anything with a letter following this one (to separate out the final positions), then if it's an X after a descender, use the special X.fina, else replace the letter with its .fina version.
Then it has a lookup that says ignore this rule if the letter is K, Q, or R followed by a descender (to prohibit tail crashes), then change out the letters that have .medi forms to those.
Then it has still more complicated coding for the X.medi (since that has to take into account both the letter before and the letter after).
28 Jan 2010 — 10:14am
Wow, Craig, wow. The opentype demonstration looks amazing, I'd be addicted to trying different words!
The new z.init? I'm loving it. Sindre's right: what stamina!
28 Jan 2010 — 11:05am
Okay, some questions:
(1) What do you think of doing this with the Z.init?
(2) Opinions on these pounds?
(3) Are any of these N's on the way to something better than the present default (#0)?
28 Jan 2010 — 11:29am
Z.init: the second one.
£: not sure. None of it gives me the "ah!" vibe other glyphs do. Just a thought: the pound sign starts as a capital script L...
N: I'm afraid that none of these really conveys the N+n idea. Could we see them along the M for comparison?
28 Jan 2010 — 11:44am
I like the third £, but I think maybe try a loop on the bottom left?
N: hmm, yes, I'm not sure either. Are there any other, crazy ideas you can try?? ;)
28 Jan 2010 — 4:03pm
Other, crazy ideas:
Maybe #10 has something?
28 Jan 2010 — 4:08pm
Yes, 10 is promising. What about giving it something like the right leg of 6?
28 Jan 2010 — 6:02pm
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29 Jan 2010 — 1:17am
The £ reminds me of this ;-)
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gondola_ferro_di_prua.jpg
The N is nice, and in some way it share something with the M. But I think it is maybe a little light compared to other letters.
29 Jan 2010 — 1:51am
That new pound sign is a very strong shape! Greatness! Nice association, Riccardo. I see something of this in it as well. Your last "N" is very clever, and becomes a defining glyph, as it now shares the "eaten by white"-characteristic of the "M" loop, "A" and "4" (and possibly others). I think this is a keeper. I was going to suggest joining the Z.init swash to the foot serif, just as you did. Perhaps the loop is a little too large? Your glyph substitution demo looks mouthwateringly promising. What's your thoughts on the optimal size range for Ambicase, by the way?
29 Jan 2010 — 6:17am
Same altered N in the second and third lines. I darkened it, and tried to move the thinnest part from the side to the top. It also occurred to me that this could be a place where the Y.calt could kick in, which the third line shows. Though I could also kern over the regular Y and probably be okay.
I also enlarged the swashy parts of those figures, and on Z.init I lowered the swash, and also made the top right less pointy.
What's your thoughts on the optimal size range for Ambicase, by the way?
Ugh, I was afraid someone was going to ask that. I came to realize with my first font design attempt that I didn't think about that question early enough, and it was gnawing at me that I'm probably doing that again!
At what sizes do you think a font of this character would be useful? 48pt and up maybe? It did occur to me that when the design is finalized it might be useful to make a large display cut with thinner hairlines.
31 Jan 2010 — 8:39am
So, I liked that new N but in context it kept looking backwards to me... So I flipped it!
1 Feb 2010 — 2:05pm
That may work, but perhaps the diagonal then should be more ... diagonal? The NE part looks a little cramped, I think, and the NW a little too open.
1 Feb 2010 — 3:39pm
The difficulty is the design is trying to split the difference between a lowercase form (a 100%:0% counter relationship) and an uppercase form (50%:50%). So I guess the question is, if I make the diagonal more diagonal, will the roundedness of the hump be enough to suggest the lowercase even though the overall shape is far closer to uppercase. Here's some adjustments: 0 is as above, 1 narrows the hump, 2 is the same with the thin stroke on the right kicked out a touch (which I don't think works).
1 Feb 2010 — 3:54pm
Option 1 looks good, although the glyph looks a tad wide to my eyes. How about a compromise between Options 0 and 1?
1 Feb 2010 — 3:59pm
That new N/n is insane. In a good way.
1 Feb 2010 — 4:17pm
#0 and #1 are as above, #3 in between is, well, in between them.
although the glyph looks a tad wide to my eyes
I think you've been looking at Telefon Ns too long! ;-)
1 Feb 2010 — 4:32pm
:-)
Aw, this is difficult. Number 1 is in my opinion the most harmonious shape, while number 3 is possibly the best choice for this typeface. Still, number 0 is perhaps the most conceptually correct.
1 Feb 2010 — 8:31pm
@Tiffany: thanks!
2 Feb 2010 — 8:53am
Think I'll use N #3.
Here's some work on swash forms of D: new D.init which I'm not sure about, new D.fina which I'm sure is better, and thinking of cutting D.medi.
2 Feb 2010 — 9:38am
The medial "D" in the second line (not sure which is old and which is new) relates nicely to the whiteout-theme. I think some unexpected simplicity is crucial to this design.
The initial and finial (is that the right word? Someday, I'm going to read up on English typo-nomenclature) in the second line look best to my eyes. Perhaps the loop in the finial gets a little close to the stem.
Just had another look at your latest specimen, by the way. Those are the coolest daggers I've ever seen. Section mark and pilcrow are also wicked. I'm envious of your graphical imagination.
2 Feb 2010 — 10:01am
I should have specified old and new, but glad to hear you like the second line as that's the new!
Thanks for the compliment.
2 Feb 2010 — 12:41pm
I second the second line! ;-)
2 Feb 2010 — 3:36pm
What do you think of this idea for a swash form of /E/?