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For the end credits of my new movie, I need to know who the designer of ITC Franklin Gothic Extra Condensed is. MyFonts names Morris Fuller Benton first but also credits David Berlow and Victor Caruso. Was either of the latter individually responsible for the EC font, or was that part of the original Benton design?
15 Jul 2004 — 1:00am
Thanks, Yves,
One more -- anyone know who designed Gothic 821?
15 Jul 2004 — 1:19am
Oh, great -- I stumbled into the Great Litigation Problem.
15 Jul 2004 — 1:25am
Did Hoffmann do the condensed version, or is that a Spiekermann design? Guess I could ask him, but wow, what a minefield I'd be walking into.
15 Jul 2004 — 1:32am
He might have just been being lazy, though.
Thanks, Yves -- you're now credited under Typographic Research! Care to proofread the credits?
15 Jul 2004 — 1:41am
> Wait, who's that behind your back, breathing down your neck?!
Ja!
15 Jul 2004 — 12:43am
I seem to remember that the Extra Condenseds were designed
by Berlow solo, but it's too long ago and I haven't got anything
to double-check my recollections with.
15 Jul 2004 — 1:15am
Tricky: Gothic 821 is in fact Bitstream's version of Berthold's
) which was originally designed by H. Hoffmann 
Block Extra Condensed (I hope I don't get sued for revealing
this
somewhere between 1908 and 1927. So I guess "Bitstream
design department" might do if you want to avoid litigation.
15 Jul 2004 — 1:20am
Hehe, found this when Googling. Scroll to the bottom.
15 Jul 2004 — 1:28am
Well, the 1908-1927 makes me believe Hoffmann did all
the versions, as I'd find it highly unlikely he'd have spent
19 years designing say the basic non-condensed weights.
15 Jul 2004 — 1:31am
But don't mention Spiekermann, he did the Berthold digitization!
Wait, who's that behind your back, breathing down your neck?!
Oh no, it's the Berthold
15 Jul 2004 — 1:44am
To use one of my all-time favourite Spiekermann quotes:
"Ve hav vays for making you talk..."