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beejay's picture

Nice job Kent.

Anyone care to identify the others?

defrancisco's picture

third one top row is Nitrogen Bold and, is Platelet the fourth one?

nicolai's picture

Nr. 2 was Pakenham, right?
(I only needed one more!!! Damn!)

It was a good one BJ

defrancisco's picture

I was checking Prokion when I got Kent's winning post...

Good job, Mr. Lew!
(and, great quiz, bj)

defrancisco's picture

That's right, Target, not Platelet!!!

beejay's picture

yeah, I think that names them all.

The platelet looking one is indeed Target,
by Tomi H. :-)

kentlew's picture

Good fun, bj! I just realized, that was pretty tricky
using the alternate 'g' from Prokyon. Did DTL include
that in the final release?

Stephen, I just happened to be wasting time at the
right moment. Luck is all, my boy.

Okay, here's one that I hope might keep y'all busy for
at least a little while.

Type Quiz

-- K.

zpunktled's picture

just curious...
who made the Jigsaw Bold? and distributor?

beejay's picture

kent, most of those were from pdfs.
The exhaustive prokyon pdf includes two lowercase gs.

I would imagine DTL tucked both of them in...

bj

Is this an UC K?

beejay's picture

Jigsaw.
Peter Bilak. http://www.typotheque.com/

eomine's picture

I'd say it's an italic "z".
Not sure if uppercase or lowercase.

kentlew's picture

Typotheque is indeed Peter's foundry, but the Indie Fonts
book says Jigsaw was designed by Johanna Balus

cheshiredave's picture

Very interesting -- that hadn't occurred to me. I'd thought it was a lower-case k. I figured Kent would know every interesting k out there. ;)

cheshiredave's picture

The context got lost. I was referring to Eduardo's suggestion that the sample is an italic Z (or z).

beejay's picture

good catch on jigsaw, my carelessness.
I briefly considered
lowercase z, but the dip seemed sooo extreme.

I also guessed paratype...but after a few views,
I realized that the gifs, even at the biggest
size, don't show enough detail.

Kent, is this viewable at this size/resolution on the
internet?

beejay's picture

i suppose "on the internet" would include a downloadable
pdf or zoom-in ability in Flash.

kentlew's picture

>Kent, is this viewable at this size/resolution on the
internet?


Hmmm. I'm not sure. I kinda doubt it. Hey, I was going for
a tricky one. I didn't want Heinrich snapping it right up.

Here's a little more for you to consider.

Type Quiz closer

kentlew's picture

I'm out of here. I'll catch you all in the morning.

-- K.

kentlew's picture

Hey guys. I think I may have been even more devilish
with this than I had intended. I doubt anyone will ever
be able to find this. So I'm going to have to drop a
whole lot of broad clues and see if someone can put
them all together.

Here's the full 'z':

Type Quiz

This typeface is by a well-known designer and I'm
pretty sure that is now available for license, but you
won't find it on the internet and you have to know to
ask about it. What I realized this morning is that this
version of the italic z must only be in the original design
as commissioned in 1998 by a well-known magazine.
This version is used in the magazine. But all the other
printed examples I can find (like the one in Indie Fonts,
for instance) show a more normal z. I took my sample
from a PDF I have of a specimen that was created for
the Bukva:raz! exhibition. But this typeface did not
receive any award in that show; it was in the exhibit,
but was not chosen -- how's that for a riddle?

-- K.

beejay's picture

i'll limit myself to one guess: Fenway italic z?

kentlew's picture

There you go. That's it. It wasn't until I started looking
to see what one might be able to find to ID this that
I realized that the Indie Fonts showing and the text
of Language, Culture, Type don't have this version of
the z. I guess Matthew changed it at some point.
But my version is the same as the one still used in
Sports Illustrated, which I'm pretty sure still has this
dropped z (standard, not an alternate).

Back over to you, bj.

Sorry for making that one so obscure. So much
for being tricky.

-- Kent.

beejay's picture

Okay, thanks Kent.

Fenway is based on Miller which is based on New Century Schoolbook, is that correct?


If anyone reallly has something they're dying to post,
email me at bjharvey@apollo26.com within the next
15 minutes. If not, I'll find something.

bj

John Hudson's picture

I realized that the Indie Fonts showing and the text of Language Culture Type don't have this version of the z. I guess Matthew changed it at some point.

Yes. When I started typesetting Language Culture Type I was using a OT font that I made based on the earlier version of Fenway that Sports Illustrated has, but then Matthew sent me an updated version with less extravagant italic z.

BJ, Fenway is not based on Miller, which is a Scotch roman. Fenway is more of a Dutch oldstyle, with direct links to Fleischmann.

beejay's picture

Kent, thanks for the info.

LCT
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1932026010/102-8866820-5863346?v=glance

No takers so far on the Pop Quiz...I'll find
something.

beejay's picture

hint: the author of this font is...


pix.jpg


peterbruhn's picture

drunk? alive? in love with panncakes?

beejay's picture

You need to rebrand immediately.
Fountain, the funny type foundry. :-) :-)

No, the hint is in red.



kentlew's picture

>Kent, thanks for the info.

? That was John with the info this time.

More Fenway info: Matthew's spiel about it is


"Fenway was designed as a replacement for Times
Roman, use for many years in the magazine [Sports
Illustrated
]. It has a stronger color than Times but an
equivalent character count, achieved in part by making
the capitals more compact. . . . Fenway is not a historical
revival, although the Roman probably owes something
to Joan Michael Fleischman (1701-1768) whose types
are among the most legible of those cut for the smallest
bodies. The Italic, on the other hand, displays the
influence more of Fleischman's contemporary and
competitor Jacques-Fran

beejay's picture

Oops. My head was in several different clouds.
Sorry about that John/Kent.

Stephen Coles's picture

Aww, I was so close. Got Kent's email as I was writing the
following. Bested by Mr. Lew once again...

Row 1: ? / Pakenham / ? / Target
Row 2: ? / Prokyon / ? / Beezer Sans

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