There's a hole in my typeface, dear Vera, dear Vera

sii
12.Dec.2008 5.39pm
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http://www.ecofont.eu/ecofont_en.html

"The inventive designing method of the Ecofont - ommitting spaces in each
letter to decrease the black surface of the letter and thus save ink by printing - is intellectual property of SPRANQ creative communications, Utecht, The Netherlands. Imitation of this technique is prohibited."

typodermic
12.Dec.2008 6.31pm
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Huh. I never realized I was saving the planet too. Where do I get my retroactive government grant? Jimi should get one too.


Mark Simonson
12.Dec.2008 6.41pm
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AppleWorks? What decade is this from? Or does it not work with iWork?


sii
12.Dec.2008 6.59pm
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And a medal for Michael Harvey... http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/studz/


dezcom
13.Dec.2008 11.14am
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How shortsighted he was. He should just print in Braille which uses no ink at all, that would save 100% of ink.

ChrisL


James Puckett
13.Dec.2008 11.28am
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At least it was designed in the Netherlands so there won’t be an AIGA award to roll my eyes at.


dezcom
16.Dec.2008 1.45pm
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Si, Here is another option for you:

ChrisL


will powers
16.Dec.2008 6.00pm
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Thanks, Chris:

That's one of my favorite lettrforms. I wonder if it is widely used outside of the USA, where it is very common.

powers


dezcom
16.Dec.2008 6.12pm
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Surely in Iraq and Afghanistan.

ChrisL


dberlow
17.Dec.2008 5.21am
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"Surely in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Not likely, the holes shown above were made from the front of the sign.

Cheers!


dezcom
17.Dec.2008 6.09am
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LOL!!!

ChrisL


speter
17.Dec.2008 7.05am
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And the top of the sign is bent from having a shoe thrown at it. (Size 10, I believe.)


DanGayle
17.Dec.2008 7.59am
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So, Holy Fonts are the new hotness? Time to break out Fontlab and start adding holes to helvetica.

Isn't this kind of dumb anyways, since most ink is soy based now? Or so I thought....


sii
17.Dec.2008 8.18am
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>And the top of the sign is bent from having a shoe thrown at it.

Maybe they were aiming at the Bush behind the sign?


dezcom
17.Dec.2008 8.40am
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Ahhh, so they were Bush whackers!

ChrisL


russellm
17.Dec.2008 9.35am
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they've been doing that for years in the sign biz

(I was looking for the tip off that that site is a joke, but there doesn't seem to be one. )

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sii
17.Dec.2008 12.34pm
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>I was looking for the tip off that that site is a joke

It could be that we're missing it. Perhaps the humor is just too subtle or too Dutch for us to comprehend?


BlueStreak
17.Dec.2008 1.03pm
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Do the Dutch do something like April Fools in December?


sii
17.Dec.2008 2.27pm
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I think it's more of a year-round thing.

Si


dezcom
17.Dec.2008 2.33pm
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Or maybe just an occasional Dutch Treat :-)

ChrisL


BlueStreak
18.Dec.2008 6.15am
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I've heard a rumor that the Swiss are working on a new low fat cheese. It reduces fat by placing holes in the cheese.


grntwlkr
18.Dec.2008 7.18am
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Wouldn't setting with a thin type like helviteca light save more ink?


sii
18.Dec.2008 7.59am
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Probably. Wasn't there a recent thread from a sign-maker asking about ink-saving typefaces?


innovati
18.Dec.2008 8.29am
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Don't most printers have an 'economy' mode which in effect, turns every printed piece into a low-ink solution?

As far as I understand, couldn't just using environmentally friendly inks be a better solution than trying to reduce them at severe cost to anything we actually bother to print?

I mean, it's one thing to be conscious about the ink you're using - I can't possibly forget and I can't allow myself to be wasteful of it, but to sacrifice everything in a vain attempt to minimize the ink used to me seems like tokenism

Is this the Yellow Ribbon on te back of my car, for eco-minded people who don't really want to make a difference, just look like they do?

Could these people be pushing for adoption of newspapers and Magazines in PDF and advocacting a trend away from print for people who don't need print instead and reduce the mount of ink that way?


russellm
18.Dec.2008 9.42am
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Couldn't one simply reduce the point size? Say from 10 to 5, or even less. That reduces both paper and ink consumption by at least 75%.

It would be totally worth the inconvenience and eye strain.

(I'm patenting idea that by the way, so don't don't even think of trying it.) #<|:o)

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russellm
18.Dec.2008 9.46am
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Oh yea... And eleiminate spaces. That will save time as well.

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James Puckett
18.Dec.2008 9.58am
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There are plenty of better options than a holey font, but this is really just another lame greenwashing attempt by a firm trying to impress clients.


speter
18.Dec.2008 10.05am
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How about blind printing for ultimate ink savings?


Jos Buivenga
18.Dec.2008 12.23pm
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Just a publicity stunt indeed. But they pulled it off ;-)
Some "facts" --> http://farlukar.110mb.com/stuff.php#ecofont


kosal
18.Dec.2008 3.32pm
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Wasnt Vera designed for screen?


sii
21.Dec.2008 9.35pm
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>Wasnt Vera designed for screen?

Yes Vera is a somewhat less hinted version of Prima Sans which was originally developed for Netscape as a Verdana challenger.


dberlow
22.Dec.2008 6.45am
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"There are [] better options than a holey font, [] this is [] another lame greenwashing attempt[]."

Why? It is automatic, and beside printing not being the greenest form of communication, this works. How many graphs are chewed up to make that graphite toner, not to mention the electricity saved not charging that portion of the page? It's bind moggling.

Cheers!


sii
22.Dec.2008 10.37am
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David, surprised you weren't interviewed for this AP piece...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jtLQxmtanjrUBlpH2V0YBh...


Zara Evens
22.Dec.2008 2.26pm
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Let's not forget Herr Spiekermann once tried saving the planet with FF Mt, by just throwing away the vowels.

http://typographica.org/001087.php


dezcom
22.Dec.2008 2.33pm
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One of my favorites, Zara!

ChrisL


russellm
22.Dec.2008 6.52pm
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@ Zara & Crhis... about Erik Spiekermann's FF Mt

When I first saw FF MT, I thought it was hilarious, so I downloaded and installed the font right away. (I actually had very sound proffesional humourous distraction required here reasons at the time)... Around the same time, I was uninstalling a bunch of fonts that I had no use for use.

Then... Time passed. My dentist asked me to re-design the sign I'd done for her before. It was basically an editing job, but changed fonts. I did the work in the same file the previous version was in so I could show her a quick "before and after"... Mean-time, unbeknownst to me, one of the fonts I'd deleted was the one I'd used in the old design. For some reason, the god's chose to make FF MT the default fall back-up font for that file... In the event that to one I'd originally specified should be unavailable. She looked at it for a few seconds ("Dr. Lbvk Dntst..." and said, "Um, Russ, I think there might be some spelling mistakes there"...

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dezcom
22.Dec.2008 10.15pm
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No spelling mistakes there, Russ, just an effort at conservation :-)

ChrisL


speter
23.Dec.2008 7.22am
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Dr. Lbvk Dntst

That's exactly what it sounds like midway through getting a filling.


russellm
23.Dec.2008 7.59am
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DARN!

I never thought of that... FF MT is the perfect typeface for dentists' signs.

(FF Mt, by the way, is FF Meta with no lowercase vowels, which Erik Spiekermann put out a couple of April fools ago.)

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HaleyFiege
23.Dec.2008 2.53pm
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Why not just use a light typeface?

Or make a website instead.... :)


colaboy
28.Dec.2008 5.49am
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sorry to bump this but couldn't resist after reading the FAQ:

Is there an Ecofont serif too?
The Ecofont is (also) intended for business purposes. In business environments the sans serif Verdana - on which the Ecofont is based - is often used.

The link Jos posted explains the lack of a serif holy.

Daniel


Nick Shinn
28.Dec.2008 3.03pm
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When I started a green marketing company in the '80s, one of our precepts was smaller ads.
Perhaps not surprisingly, the experts in small space advertising didn't last long.
Large corporations and their agencies (and those that aspire to greatness) feel obliged to book large-space ads, with lots of creatively leveraged white space of one colour or another--anything else would be beneath the dignity of their market position.


Christopher Dean
30.Dec.2008 9.53pm
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