BAD Helvetica system font in LEOPARD OSX
Hello,
I can live with that when browsing, but worst thing is, people see it in advertising and even packaging design.
In Lithuanian language we have letter „u“ with „ogonek“. And this ogonek is put on wrong place in Helvetica regular system font (Leopard OSX today). See attachment
Please anybody: if You know person in Apple or related, push him to correct this thing.
We learned to put ogonek on the right at school:) And our grands do so:)
Thanks,
Žydrūnas.
8.Oct.2008 5.21am
It seems this only affects the Regular and Oblique styles of Helvetica (not Neue), TrueType (v.6.0d7e1). Bold and Bold Oblique are in line with your ‘good’ sample, aren’t they?
The version that came with Tiger (OSX 10.4, v.5.0d8e2) looked different; with the ogonek at the right position, albeit detached.
Pretty inconsistent.
8.Oct.2008 5.51am
The one on the left might be good, but it ain’t Helvetica. :)
Cheers!
8.Oct.2008 6.58am
Ouch!
8.Oct.2008 7.34am
Florian You are right.
It started with Leopard... regular (what else in most cases, esp. internet) and oblique.
David yes, myriad with right position is in the example:)
Ž.
8.Oct.2008 8.51am
I knew I had seen this bad character before!
8.Oct.2008 11.25am
sorry?
9.Oct.2008 8.06am
No need to apologize...
>Pretty inconsistent.
...it’s clearly Linotype’s fault... “home of the originals” or maybe Apple “think different”
9.Oct.2008 11.04am
I forwarded this thread onto font contacts at Apple - so they are now aware of the issue.
Cheers, Si
9.Oct.2008 2.09pm
Microsoft have improved the design and placement of ogoneks in their their core fonts in the Windows Vista / Office 2007-2008 versions of their fonts, see http://typophile.com/node/39060
Apple would do good if they did the same or licensed Helvetica World from Linotype to replace the old Helvetica.
Adam
9.Oct.2008 5.52pm
> Apple would do good if they did the same or licensed Helvetica World from Linotype to replace the old Helvetica.
The best approach would be to just replace everything with Myriad! :^) Numbers on the iPhone, anyone?!
10.Oct.2008 1.37am
>The best approach would be to just replace everything with Myriad! :^) Numbers on the iPhone, anyone?!
almost everything is replaced here with myriad already... my eyes are burned:)
10.Oct.2008 9.25am
>The best approach would be to just replace everything with Myriad!
I wonder why they don’t? Licensing issues? ;-) As I recall it all got a bit interesting when Apple claimed Myriad was being used on the first color iPods - but those references mysteriously disappeared... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podium_Sans