Illustrator help, please re: Create Outlines > Add Stroke > Then...?

ihoff's picture

Hi. I need help. I'm designing a logotype in Illustrator CS3. Turned fonts to outlines. Added a slight stroke. How do I now simplify the path, that is merge the stroke with the body? Any help appreciated. I've tried Illustrator's help pages, but am still stuck.

Thank you!

ihoff

jonathanhughes's picture

Im not positive what you mean by "merge the stroke with the body" but I think the "outline stroke" command might be what you're looking for. Select your logo, then go to Object/Path/Outline Stroke.

RedMonolith's picture

Object > Path > Outline Stroke
then
Pathfinder Palette > Add to Shape, then Expand

If your outlines are complex or dashed, instead of Object > Path > Outline Stroke, you will need to use
Object > Flatten Transparency with Vector/Raster balance at 100, and Convert Strokes to Outlines checked.

ihoff's picture

Jonathan and Red – thanks very much for your suggestions!

Jonahtan: What I meant was turning a font to outline, then adding a stroke resulted in a letter that had too many points/paths. The stroke had a path and the main body had a path and I wanted to merge the two. The Pathfinder Add to Shape option wasn't working.

Red: You're second suggestion solved my problem! Thank you!!!! I've spent hours trying to work this one out. I've learned something new today. :)

Ch's picture

"offset path" will also accomplish this. you can choose the amount of offset to mimic the stroke weight you like, apply offset, then use pathfinder to merge. no strokes needed.

Ricardo Cordoba's picture

ihoff, if I understand you correctly, you are adding a stroke to your outlined text. This will eat into the characters and change the shape of the letters. The solution is to outline your text, copy it, and then use the "paste in back" command (I believe it's in the Edit menu). That is the text you stroke. Does this explanation make sense?

sendoushi's picture

i do agree with Ricardo Cordoba you have to be careful not to lose the shape and the way you're doing i think you will lose... of course we are forgetting something... proportions! proportions from stroke to the outline and proportions of the final work to the paper.

Joel Santos // youremin
sound & visual

Bert Vanderveen's picture

Off Topic:
Joel, when is your site going to be up? The link on MyFonts is no good…

. . .
Bert Vanderveen BNO

Ch's picture

yes ricardo is correct, if you want to preserve the original shape perfectly.
make the new one with whatever method, and paste behind.

sendoushi's picture

bert, my website already has been up but now i'm having problems with my domain, i think i'll have to buy another one.
i don't have much about type on my website, just portfolio but you would like to see for any reason or just... to see ?

Joel Santos // youremin
sound & visual

ihoff's picture

Thanks everyone, really appreciate the help. I've only added a very small stroke (I hope). I'll try the 'paste in back' option next time.

This is the logotype. It's a new company, so the client asked me to put accent in. In a year we'll drop it. Comments welcome. The client has signed off on it, so I can't make any major changes. ;)

Ricardo Cordoba's picture

Oh, I see. Your stroke is the same color as the fill. The method I mentioned is useful if the stroke and the fill are two different colors.

sendoushi's picture

yes, you didn't lose the properties of the type-face.
By the way... why isnt the ´ blue too? i don't know but i don't like but the solution on the end of the logo...

Joel Santos // youremin
sound & visual

ihoff's picture

The client asked for the accent in black. Didn't understand the last part of your coment, Joel.

sendoushi's picture

the solution of the E with accent black but if the client asked... the client is the boss!

Joel Santos // youremin
sound & visual

jekie's picture

I came across this thread looking for a solution to the double stroke problem. Here's the solution that satisfied my needs, based on the techniques mentioned in this thread so far:

1. Convert Text to Outlines (cmd + shift + o)
2. Object > Path > Offset Path. Set offset to the stroke you would like.
3. Object > Compound Path > Release
4. Ungroup. (cmd + shift + g)
5. Pathfinder > Add to Shape, then Expand.

The result is a shape that mimics a text stroke.

naoiseo's picture

This is what I do.

Serif Sheriff's picture

Why do you need to put a stroke on it? Try doing a path-offset path (by the number of points you want) and it will create a separate shape behind the type that is slightly larger. That way, you aren't crowding the inner elements of the type: it stays completely intact, you are just building around it.

theplatypus's picture

Serif Sheriff, you are correct. Of course, there are multiple ways of executing the solution. One can also use the Appearance Palette to add a stroke and placing the "Stroke" layer behind the "Fill" layer. Add as many new layers you want using the Appearance Palette.

daniel

ihoff's picture

Thanks everybody - I've learned a few new tricks and shortcuts.

naoiseo – how did you create the fab walk-through movie? very impressive.

Miss Tiffany's picture

Of course if you are doing this you'll need to fine tune the shape because now that a looks all wrong. Just sayin'.

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