Do you mean the long s (ſ) or the ligatures involving the long s (ß)?
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Personal Art and Design Portal of Ivan Gulkov www.ivangdesign.com
There are no easy ways to access characters outside the standard codepages.
You may try:
-The hex input keyboard layout
-The character palette (Command + Option + T)
-Third party tools like PopChar
-Third party replacement tool (to create your own replacements) like TextExpander, Typinator or RapidoWrite
I've used it a cople of times for setting faux-antique labels and signs.
Now Þorn is something I always wanted to use, but never found a practical application for.
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Personal Art and Design Portal of Ivan Gulkov www.ivangdesign.com
I've used it a good bit in my thesis since I'm quoting from a book from the 17th century.
I agree with oprion too, I'd love to use thorn but between not being terribly recognizable outside of the linguistics / typography / Icelandic community, it goes the way of fraktur or the long s. I suppose you could print a book of Old English poetry and use that along with the æ-macron :)
«El futuro es una línea tan fina que apenas nos damos cuenta de pintarla nosotros mismos». (La Luz Oscura, por Javier Guerrero)
I'm currently reading a book recommended by John Berry on his blog: The Stories of English by David Crystal. There are thorns galore in the Old and Middle English quotations. Along with some yoghs and a few wynns.
I was looking for the long-s just now and oddly I could not find it in my [latest] PopChar - but the blessed Google brought me straight to this thread, so thanks for the keyboard shortcut.
Cheers,
Colin
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No furniture so charming as books. Rev Sydney Smith, 1771 -1845
28 May 2008 — 9:23am
Do you mean the long s (ſ) or the ligatures involving the long s (ß)?
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Personal Art and Design Portal of Ivan Gulkov
www.ivangdesign.com
28 May 2008 — 9:33am
option+s = ß
28 May 2008 — 9:41am
Long s: ſ
Jon.
28 May 2008 — 10:27am
There are no easy ways to access characters outside the standard codepages.
You may try:
-The hex input keyboard layout
-The character palette (Command + Option + T)
-Third party tools like PopChar
-Third party replacement tool (to create your own replacements) like TextExpander, Typinator or RapidoWrite
28 May 2008 — 10:59am
!
29 May 2008 — 2:26pm
Gotcha. Thanks all!
Jon.
29 May 2008 — 3:42pm
question about the long s:
have you ever used it in modern typography for any current reasons?
I realized now how silly a sans-serif ſ looks and that's probably because I've never seen one in sans before.
Have you ever seen/used ſ in sans or recently?
29 May 2008 — 4:04pm
I've used it a cople of times for setting faux-antique labels and signs.
Now Þorn is something I always wanted to use, but never found a practical application for.
_____________________________________________
Personal Art and Design Portal of Ivan Gulkov
www.ivangdesign.com
29 May 2008 — 4:07pm
I think the long S is more recognizable than thorn, unless you're in iceland of course ;)
29 May 2008 — 4:13pm
I've used it a good bit in my thesis since I'm quoting from a book from the 17th century.
I agree with oprion too, I'd love to use thorn but between not being terribly recognizable outside of the linguistics / typography / Icelandic community, it goes the way of fraktur or the long s. I suppose you could print a book of Old English poetry and use that along with the æ-macron :)
«El futuro es una línea tan fina que apenas nos damos cuenta de pintarla nosotros mismos». (La Luz Oscura, por Javier Guerrero)
29 May 2008 — 10:16pm
Have you ever seen ſ in sans recently?
Yes, only last week in Martin Z. Schröder’s Druckerey blog.
30 May 2008 — 5:47am
I'm currently reading a book recommended by John Berry on his blog: The Stories of English by David Crystal. There are thorns galore in the Old and Middle English quotations. Along with some yoghs and a few wynns.
-- K.
30 May 2008 — 8:24am
Have you ever seen ſ in sans recently?
I put a long s and long s ligatures in Hypatia Sans. But I'll freely admit it looks a bit silly, and it may not have been such a great idea.
T
30 May 2008 — 9:20am
btw, just for the record Thomas, you have a wonderful name ;-)
Where can I get Hypatia sans? I've seen the page on Adobe's site but it doesn't really tell me where I can get it.
I hear you're still working on some italics for it, I sure can't wait to see those!
30 May 2008 — 3:08pm
Tom, at the moment Hypatia is only available as registration incentive. If you need to upgrade to CS3 now you have a good reason.
30 May 2008 — 10:27pm
I've got CS3 but I'm not seeing any incentive with registering here :(
And now would be a silly time to upgrade if I hadn't with CS4 in the oven :) I can't wait for CS4!!
6 Nov 2008 — 6:14am
I was looking for the long-s just now and oddly I could not find it in my [latest] PopChar - but the blessed Google brought me straight to this thread, so thanks for the keyboard shortcut.
Cheers,
Colin
--
No furniture so charming as books. Rev Sydney Smith, 1771 -1845
8 Nov 2008 — 7:58pm
Option-s is the German eszett. In some typefaces it looks like a long-s-plus-s ligature, in others, not so much.
T