Long S ligature shortcut in OS X?

imageWIS's picture

I’m looking for the keyboard shortcut to type ligatures on OS X, especially long s.

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Jon.

oprion's picture

Do you mean the long s (ſ) or the ligatures involving the long s (ß)?
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Miss Tiffany's picture

option+s = ß

imageWIS's picture

Long s: ſ

Jon.

ralf h.'s picture

There are no easy ways to access characters outside the standard codepages.

You may try:
-The hex input keyboard layout
-The character palette (Command + Option + T)
-Third party tools like PopChar
-Third party replacement tool (to create your own replacements) like TextExpander, Typinator or RapidoWrite

d's picture

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imageWIS's picture

Gotcha. Thanks all!

Jon.

innovati's picture

question about the long s:

have you ever used it in modern typography for any current reasons?

I realized now how silly a sans-serif ſ looks and that's probably because I've never seen one in sans before.

Have you ever seen/used ſ in sans or recently?

oprion's picture

I've used it a cople of times for setting faux-antique labels and signs.
Now Þorn is something I always wanted to use, but never found a practical application for.
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innovati's picture

I think the long S is more recognizable than thorn, unless you're in iceland of course ;)

guifa's picture

I've used it a good bit in my thesis since I'm quoting from a book from the 17th century.

I agree with oprion too, I'd love to use thorn but between not being terribly recognizable outside of the linguistics / typography / Icelandic community, it goes the way of fraktur or the long s. I suppose you could print a book of Old English poetry and use that along with the æ-macron :)

«El futuro es una línea tan fina que apenas nos damos cuenta de pintarla nosotros mismos». (La Luz Oscura, por Javier Guerrero)

Florian Hardwig's picture

Have you ever seen ſ in sans recently?

Yes, only last week in Martin Z. Schröder’s Druckerey blog.

kentlew's picture

I'm currently reading a book recommended by John Berry on his blog: The Stories of English by David Crystal. There are thorns galore in the Old and Middle English quotations. Along with some yoghs and a few wynns.

-- K.

Thomas Phinney's picture

Have you ever seen ſ in sans recently?

I put a long s and long s ligatures in Hypatia Sans. But I'll freely admit it looks a bit silly, and it may not have been such a great idea.

T

innovati's picture

btw, just for the record Thomas, you have a wonderful name ;-)

Where can I get Hypatia sans? I've seen the page on Adobe's site but it doesn't really tell me where I can get it.

I hear you're still working on some italics for it, I sure can't wait to see those!

Miss Tiffany's picture

Tom, at the moment Hypatia is only available as registration incentive. If you need to upgrade to CS3 now you have a good reason.

innovati's picture

I've got CS3 but I'm not seeing any incentive with registering here :(

And now would be a silly time to upgrade if I hadn't with CS4 in the oven :) I can't wait for CS4!!

nehoc's picture

I was looking for the long-s just now and oddly I could not find it in my [latest] PopChar - but the blessed Google brought me straight to this thread, so thanks for the keyboard shortcut.

Cheers,

Colin
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Thomas Phinney's picture

Option-s is the German eszett. In some typefaces it looks like a long-s-plus-s ligature, in others, not so much.

T

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