Hefeweizen

anonymous's picture

hefeweizen.jpg

Hefeweizen is a sans serif font built entirely with straight lines and angles based on 60-degree increments. Many of the characters follow blackletter form, but not strictly.

It also works suprisingly well at smaller sizes, and can be used for short blocks of text.

It was (very) loosely inspired by Frere-Jones' "Pilsner", but quickly developed its own direction.

The character set is not yet complete, but this sample gives a good feel for where it's going.

As always, critique is most welcome.

David Thometz

Christian Robertson's picture

The caps are great. I'm with Stephen on the J,j and Y,y. I have a hard time with the g too. It needs a more open bottom bowl and an ear consistent with it's other angles. Also, I'd pull the numbers way back; they are kind of bumpy. The text has a very strong vertical emphasis that is lost on the numerals. Almost every letter has one very bold vertical stroke going from top to bottom, giving it a very boxy feel. (just like the original textura quadrada). I think you could give the numbers this same feel. For ex. the 2 could have a longer vertical stroke on it's back, the five could loose the angle on it's back, the seven could have a strong, vertical leg attached by a hairline consistent with other angles in the face and the 1 and 4 could loose their base serifs.

I know that you have avoided horizontals exepting on the bases of vertical strokes, but I think one would be appropriate on the crossbar of the 4.

Wow. I hope that's not too much. I really do like the feel of the face. The E and the R are about the coolest things I've seen in a while. I'm interested to see the rest of the character set (how do you do it? your faces are always to complete).

Christian R.

Pixelkind's picture

Hallo,
what a nice font! I`m very impressed, especially `cause I live in Germany, where native Hefeweizen will be made. :o)
After I have seen your creation I began to design my first font. Curently I check other Beer`s fonts to avoid similar forms.
Here you can have a link with germans beerfactories:
http://www.bierchen.de/cgi-bin/de/gesammeltes/links.pl?land=de

Have fun!

hrant's picture

Will you call it Reinheitsgebot? :-)

hhp

mart's picture

Wadim!
Thanks for the German beer links page. I LOVE German beer! There's not enough of it here in the USA. :(

fonthausen's picture

Hi David,
I live in Germany also and can tell you as well about the bad luck you have, not being able to get real German bear :

Pixelkind's picture

Hallo,
to: Hrant
I assume my beerfont will get the name: Roggen(Roggen=rye)
Not sure. Getreide Rulez! (Getreide=grain)
Mich sticht der Hafer. :o)

But I think it will take really a while till I create my first font, because I have much work and not much time. It`s already sufficient to sketch fonts at night. I will cancel my job. I want to be free...Hopefully I won`t then sketch the money! :o)))

GildedCage's picture

i like what i see. nice work. if you're going to do a german inspired font, then i'd suggest throwing in an > ß <,

damit man ja nicht immer dopple-s schlagen muß.
also, det wär mien Vorschlag.

plubird's picture

O'zapf is

very funny that you make font called Hefeweizen while in germany (Munich) the biggest "Volksfest begun. Bad that you cant come!

I prefer the Alternate Style. It is more flexibel than the Regular one. And I guess the Blackletterstyle is better in more inside the Alternate.

Auf geht's zur der Wiesn

Greetings Jens

artist's picture

To Mr. David Thometz

DTD Hefeweizen is a unique typeface with the alternate characters an artist could get very creative.

How would a lighter weight version of DTD Hefeweixzen work?
Will this type face be available at my Myfonts.com?

Hildebrant's picture

Any word on the release or availability of this face?

Hildebrant.

artist's picture

To Mr. David Thometz

One other design I forgot to mention is how about
condensed or maybe even an extra condensed version of DTD Hefeweizen in regular and a lighter weight.

Yours truly,
Robert

gulliver's picture

Robert, Kyle, and everyone else who has posted:

Thanks for your interest in Hefeweizen!
I apologize for not replying sooner; I've been
away on an extended trip over the holidays,
and then I had some heath and business
issues to which to attend.

I'm happy to announce, though, that
Hefeweizen has finally been released
through MyFonts.com:


http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/thometz/hefeweizen/


DTD Hefeweizen is available in both
Postscript Type 1 and TrueType formats
for Macintosh and PC/Windows platforms.


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anonymous's picture

Hi, Stephen!

Thanks.

Yes, the intent was originally to follow the blackletter model, but enough alternates characters are suggesting themselves that I'm planning an alternates set for this one as well. I'll take your advice to heart for the u/lc "J/j" and "Y/y", and probably include them in either the main set or the alternates.

I'll get either a pdf or an eps set & e-mailed to you to print out.

David

anonymous's picture

UC 'T' bothers me. It looks too much like a UC 'C'.

Sbo

Joe Pemberton's picture

I have to admit I originally thought the y was
strange. However, I've been preparing the
Typophile Fifty Gallery show (coming soon

anonymous's picture

Sorry for my apparent silence -- between client work and work on this face, I haven't had anything to post as yet. I have been reading all your comments, however, and I have indeed been making some progress on the face. It's developing a rather full alternates set, which will incorporate most (if not all) of your suggestions.

Thanks for the encouragement! I'll post an update soon.

And special thanks to Wadim for the German beer links! (I wonder what Germans would think of "Happy Valley Hefeweizen" or "Polygamy Porter"? :D )

David

anonymous's picture

DTD Hefeweizen & Hefeweizen Alternate:
hefeweizen.jpg
hefeweizenalternate.jpg

Here are the alterations so far. I've incorporated most, if not all of the suggestions so far into either the main font or the alternate set.

After I generated the JPEGs, I noticed that the ligatures and dipthongs are still from the olf font; those will be changed to fit with the other newer glyphs, of course.

Thanks to all for your suggestions so far. Further suggestions, of course, as always, are most appreciated.

David

anonymous's picture

Now I see why your 'T' looked like in your first post. Actually both DTD Hefeweizen and Hefeweizen Alternate has a weaker 'T' than the font deserve.

Sbo

anonymous's picture

I agree somewhat about the Roman uc "T". Every time I look at it, I am reminded of Truman Capote. :) (Don't get me wrong -- I love Truman Capote, but his image certainly doesn't say "Hefeweizen"... ;) )

I'm still exploring alternate solutions for this character. Any suggestions? In fact, since posting this yesterday, I've already made several other alterations (mostly additions) to both sets.

Any other comments?

David

Stephen Coles's picture

Sweet. Only glyphs that give me trouble are the
u & lc 'j's and 'y'. Have you tried using the
45°ish angles for those descenders or is the
intent to follow a more historical blackeletter
pattern?

This is very cool. I'd be interested to see what
it looks like at text sizes. Can you mail me a
PDF for printin'?

Stephen

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