High-quality Romulus-Greek sample needed

hrant's picture

Where can I find a high-quality rendering of JvK's Romulus-Greek?
All I seem to have handy is the sample from Letters of Credit.

hhp

John Hudson's picture

Romulus Greek is also shown in Fig.27, page 18, of Greek letters from tablets to pixels, but the reproduction is pretty poor. The text sample is too poor to be of much use, but the figure includes a large showing of the uppercase, apparently from van Krimpen's drawings for R

hrant's picture

Thanks! Considering the better paper stock, the one in "Greek Letters" would have better than LoC's, but it's really garbled, unfortunately. I was tempted to trace an outline of my LoC scan, but decided to just enlarge it then lean on Levels. The edges became rough of course but the color is good.

> Hideous typeface.

So much so that it's the first illustration I'm using in an essay I'm finishing about the dangers of Latinization*. The caption is: "Alleged Greek lowercase xi from Jan vna Krimpen's Romulus." :->

* To be published first in German.

hhp

John Hudson's picture

...the dangers of Latinization.

You need to see this:
http://www.stav.org.il/karmeli/

And then this (which I think you've seen in book form with SM's ignorant introduction):
http://www.geocities.com/snortar/schonfield.html

hrant's picture

I'd never heard of Karmeli - I'll look into it. But wouldn't you call that more of a Romanization, rather than Latinization? Hard to say, since there are a number of new symbols added - although that's in fact been the case with some Romanization schemes (like Azeri). I guess sometimes the line is blurred.

BTW, you know this one?

boutemene
Talk about wreaking havoc with stroke anatomy while you're at it!

Morison's intro in Schonfield is classic. I couldn't help including one of the worse passages ("ignorant" is generous) in my intro.

hhp

John Hudson's picture

I have seent that 'Arabic' before, but can't remember where.

Nadine Chahine showed me some photos of Latinised Arabic signage from Dubai, some of it very funny, and more interesting than the extreme example you show in that people are actually using it.

hrant's picture

That sample was from Haralambous's paper about "typographically-aware" reform of Arabic.

> Latinised Arabic signage from Dubai

I'd like to see those - I'll try to contact her.

But I know you've seen this:

sameera
From a billboard in Beirut advertising a music CD. Finally, a use for Serpentine... :-/

hhp

John Hudson's picture

Here are the images that Nadine sent of signs around Dubai. The Fairmont Hotel sign is almost impressive in its bizarreness.

Fairmong Hotel, Dubai
Shila, Dubai
Olive House, Dubai

hrant's picture

Wow, Snell does Dubai...
(Thanks!)

hhp

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Today, learn about the Amenian Genocide.

dan_reynolds's picture

is 4/24 Armenian Genocide remembrance day?

hrant's picture

Yes.

hhp

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