Anything out there?

Daniel Poindexter's picture

I was hoping for a little help. I've been looking around myself, but there is a vast knowlege base here.

I'd like to know if you know any fonts similar to these sketches, so I can figure out if it would be worth my time to start.

Also, and this may be impossible to answer due to the very small number of sketched characters, does this seem like it might be worth putting a little work into?

aquatoad's picture

Hi Daniel.

Yes and no I should think. That n is craziness :-) Other than that the most *original* aspect in my opinion is the double serif (on an angle no less) instead of the standard triangular serif. The only thing I can think of off hand is the recent Romain du Roi thread in general discussions, though yours has some assymetrical palatino happening.

Props for the sketches. If there truely is no Romain du Roi in digital format, maybe go that direction.

Good luck!

hrant's picture

Those head serifs are more accurately called Jensonian (or something). It's the style Morris applied in his imitation-Jenson stuff, and then the Americans copied it. See Jenson Old Style, URW Cloister and ITC Italia. The RdR head serifs are flat and severe. And to me this doesn't look very RdR at all - there's all kinds of chirographic stuff happening - the RdR is typographique par excellence.

BTW, I think that "n" is an "ri".


cjg's picture

I like the prominent serifs and general feel of your sketches. Especially if you're planning a full face including SC, oldstyle figures, alternates, and a whole set of ligatures, this could end up being a distinctive and stunning font.

Maybe alter the right side of the serif on m and n

aquatoad's picture

Flashing my severly stunted knowledge of typographic history :-)
LOL. n = ri (either I'm blind, or the dots on your i's are too high, but probably both!)


Daniel Poindexter's picture

Thanks, guys. I'm almost done with a digitized lowercase that might give a better impression of where I'm going with this. The historical references are really, really helpful.

Randy, that was actually just playing around with the possibility of an "r i" ligature, but it looks too much like an n. That might be an interesting alternate for the n, come to think of it. And yes, the dots are too high. :-)

Chase, I have a feeling that I'm going to have to break a lot of my own rules to make this work. :-) Let me show you the ditital version, and you can tell me if it's still too crowded.

Daniel Poindexter's picture

Okay, here's the first digitization of the lowercase characters.

Loking at it, I think I'm going to need to remove the double serif from the m,n,u, etc., but I figured I'd ask what y'all thought first.

addison's picture

I really like this, Daniel. I like the double serif on the m, n, and u as well, but maybe you could "scoop" away some of the vertical stroke at the top right beneath the serif--just a little. The bowl of the b, d, p, and q look a little compressed--or maybe the a looks a little too wide? If experience serves me, Randy Jones may suggest that the r looks like a modified n. You may try lowering the joint where the arm meets the stem. The spine of the s could use a little thickening, too. I love the t.

I'm learning myself, so take this for what it's worth. My terminology may be a little off, too. Sorry.

Good luck,

cjg's picture

Daniel: Nope, the digital version is more of what I was envisioning; it looks great. Asymmetrical full serifs that are prominent but not overpowering and modulated stroke.

I'd add a touch of curve to the lower side of the ear on the lc G or make it a miniature version of the brushstroke terminal on the J.

Great work.

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