2 typefaces in old correspondence

afonseca1974's picture

Hi All.
I’m planning to digitize this 2 typefaces that I found in old correspondence.
I was wondering if you have ever seen anything similar ou identical?

Thanks in advanced
António

Stephen Coles's picture

B seems hand lettered. Richard Beatty's Childs set has some similar styles.

Ignacio's picture

B is Utopian, an old typeface. Don't think there is digital version, at least with that name.

Don McCahill's picture

I was agreeing with Stephen on this, the variations on the r especially sold me on hand drawn. But I guess it could also be a really distressed or greatly enlarged sample.

afonseca1974's picture

Hi all!
Here are my first tests. Please give me comments (gently...)
I'm new in this and have a big learning curve ahead.
The text below its just draws, not type prepared in font lab (I mean with no kerning, etc.)

António

JCSalomon's picture

Couple of points:
• The pen angles on the d and q are different from the rest of the font; did you just mirror the p?
• The k is just odd but almost works.  (What does it look like in the source text?)
• The s is too light in the main stroke of the letter.
• The t is very awkward; note the height of the cross-bar and the rounding-off of the bottom of the stem in the original.
• Where the original o has full-width stroke at either end of the stroke, yours just looks like somebody bit into the letter.
• The v is a bit too wide, the y and the right half of the w much more so.  (Yes, I see that they're all the same width; they shouldn't be.)

On the other hand…
• Good job on replacing the teardrop dot on the i, though the height and shape could be improved.  (Maybe a slightly curve-y teardrop, almost a comma, a bit higher up?
• Love the m.  This font needs more such flourishes—why'd you drop the dangling bit on the r?

—Joel

Norbert Florendo's picture

FYI--
Ingacio is right. B is Utopian. I have small specimen of 20pt., 24pt. and 36pt. The strokes also appear irregular as the repro I have was done from an old antique hot metal shop.

afonseca1974's picture

Norbert Florendo

Can you post or send an image of the specimen of 20pt., 24pt that you have?
Thanks in advance.

António

Don McCahill's picture

Why does m get a fancy terminal, and not n. (Have you thought about offering the fancy shapes as swash characters, and having them on the regular cut. I notice you didn't buy into the fancy r of the sample.)

Ignacio's picture

Norbert
Ingacio is wrong, Ignacio is right, sometimes.

Antonio
In UnosTiposDuros website there is a PDF about the Fundición Tipográfica Richard Gans, on page 44 you can see samples of Utopian, not a complete specimen and not very high resolution but it could help you.
Some gems in that PDF.

afonseca1974's picture

Thanks all!
Well... some letters are diferent is by the fact that I dont want to "copy" the font! Not sure how this works legally.
Can I create (and register) a font call Utopian? That someone draw it 100 years ago?
At least moraly I dont think is correct... unless if you state it the "author".
So now I need the opinian of you all:
Do I create it, and do an "exact copy" of it? or
Do I adapt to my taste?

Thanks in advanced
António

Norbert Florendo's picture

> Ingacio is wrong, Ignacio is right, sometimes.

My apologies Ignacio. You're right again as usual.

António: my samples just show the word "Utopian" in 20, 24 and 36 points, very limited but it was enough for me to identify your sample. I can post or email during the weekend. Ignacio's link may serve you better.

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