CS3 problems with a new OT font

Endre Berentzen's picture

I am testing a font from Juan Pablo De Gregorio to see if it works on mac (he's on PC at the moment) and cannot get it to work properly. He has supplied me with three weights Bold, Regular and Light which shows up in Suitcase X1 as three different fontfiles with working preview. The problem arises when I try using them in InDesign and Illustrator CS3. The regular comes doesn't show but comes in as an another light. So I get 2 lights and one bold but no regular. What can this be caused by? Is the problem in the building or export of the fontfile in FL or in the Adobe software interpretation of the fontfile?

Anyone know?

Juan Pablo informed me that he is using fontlab 5.

paul d hunt's picture

it sounds like it could be a naming issue

Quincunx's picture

It sounds like naming to me too.

Endre Berentzen's picture

That's what I thought too but what specifically in the naming could he look at? Where in FL? I'm not very skilled in FL so what can I tell Juan Pablo?

Quincunx's picture

Not that I'm a big pro, but I think that one of the names is just filled in wrongly. Not very strange, since it's a big hassle to get it right, hyphen, no hyphen, abbreviation here, space there. Here is a post on the FontLab MSNGroup (horrible site, but ok) from Twardoch about naming fonts. I usually do it like that, and it has worked for me. Maybe Juan Pablo can use it.

Scott Leyes's picture

You probably have a naming issue.

In FontLab, (with the font(s) open), choose "Font Info..." -- there are a LOT of choices here, but the important ones are on the first screen: Family name, weight, width, style etc. Set these up for the weights you have, and then go thru the SEVERAL following screens (you can use the little arrow at the top to advance. FontLab is very good a "auto-filling" these (the little diamond icons) for you, but you have to set the initial values up right to begin with. If a auto-fill comes up weird, check your initial values and try again... you CAN override the auto fill, but you should consider using it as a "test".

For example: Yous set the family name to "Wacky"; then use the pop-up to set the weight to "Bold" (you can type anything here, but if you want to be consistent with the thousands of faces out there, use one of the pop-up values); tehn set the width to medium(normal). Now use the "Build Style Names" auto-fill to finish the other values, then click to the next screen and click "Build Opentype Names" and so on and so on.

This should solve your menu problem.

Note that you COULD be having problems with Illustrator/InDesign's font menu cache as well. Find a copy of Font Finagler and clean out your "old" cache files to fix any lingering menu issues (I have ot run this every month or so to clean out phantom menu items).

Quincunx's picture

I have noticed if I use the 'build style names' to auto-fill the fields, whatever pops up isn't right. At least it differs totally from what Adam Twardoch has written on the FontLab Group.

Thomas Phinney's picture

Yes, if you have more than two weights in the family, the auto-fill stuff will never work as well as I'd like - it will generate multiple families even in OT-savvy Adobe apps.


Quincunx's picture

Yeah, exactly. I have followed Adam Twardoch's little description on that (horrible) MSNGroup, which works fine for me. OT family with weights.

Goran Soderstrom's picture

Let's hope that (someday...?) FontLab make the Naming process of fonts as easy as InDesign did with PDF-files. I have never understood why this can't be inbuilt into FontLab now that the answers on how to do it are available.
I want to be able to trust the green diamond ;-)

Quincunx's picture

Yeah, the method Adam described should be built in FontLab. Or, at least it could definitely be made more easy.

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