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Posted by Rene Verkaart in

11 Aug 2007 — 2:45am

11 Aug 2007 — 2:45am

Hi guys,

I've always been puzzled by the correct use of fractions. I hate math, so I never spend any thought on getting the fractions right in my fonts or in my typesetting. But it seems to me that I should broaden my horizon so I'd like to know how to correctly create the fraction glyphs in FL.

I have the following questions:

- How big should they be, compared to the x height?

- How are the fraction numbers compared to the superior numbers?

- How should they be aligned?

- What should be the optical weight? I guess they should be a little thinner than the normal weight.

- How does it work in InDesign if you compile it with the fraction glyph (1/2)? You can set the scaling parameters in the document settings. It mostly looks ugly to me, because it makes the numbers to light.

- How do I space or kern the 'fraction' glyph for itself?

I read this thread, which got me on the way with the basics.

Is there anyone who can assist?

Regards,

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11 Aug 2007 — 6:26am

Here's a

useful article on fractionsby Ilene Strizver.11 Aug 2007 — 12:09pm

I'm surprised you haven't had one or more type designers responding that they have particularly nice methods, historically accurate all the way back to Manutius, that they use for fraction typesetting, without of course answering your question.

Better?

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Joe Clark

http://joeclark.org/

11 Aug 2007 — 2:16pm

Fractions (the whole glyph) typically match the height of the lining numbers, so the component numbers would normally be a little less than x-height. The same numbers can be used for superiors and inferiors as well as in precomposed fractions. Stem width of the fraction numbers is a just little less than of the lowercase.

11 Aug 2007 — 3:37pm

The fractions of this type should ideally be created with a solidus, not a slash. The solidus has a steeper angle, and a different baseline than the common slash.

As well, you want designed inferior/superior numbers, which the type designer will have made somewhat stronger so that they match the base weight of the font. Just using a reduced size numeral will result in a faint, weak-looking character that gives bad type color.

I dislike using old style numerals in fractions, but I have had editors who requested them.

11 Aug 2007 — 4:50pm

I would recommend putting the "fraction" feature in your fonts.

That way, users can compose any arbitrary fraction they like, simply by typing, eg 17/64, selecting it, and clicking on "fraction" in the OT menu.

A good trick is to use lining small-cap figures as the denominator, and copy-paste these glyphs into your superior figure characters. Then use your superior figures for the numerator. Or you could use inferior figures for the denominator, both on the baseline and below it are legit fraction styles.

The "fraction" feature makes the "numerator" and "denominator" features redundant.

I figured out a way to make arbitrary stacking fractions, but decided it was redundant, as if you need complex fractions like that (eg for ratios such as 400/1000), you will probably be using a math font and math software anyway. So if needed, I just put a few basic stacked fractions in my fonts now -- half, thirds, quarters and eighths. They have specific Unicode values.

12 Aug 2007 — 4:16am

Nick, if I read your reply correctly you're saying that the numerator, denominator, superior and small-caps figures could all be the same (size) with just different baselines? So you'd make no difference between the superscript and the fraction numbers?

So, correct me if I'm wrong:

- Create lining inferior and superior numbers. Correct the weight to match the rest of the font, but still keep them a little lighter.

- Put the superior fraction numbers at max. ascender height, or the same hight as the lining numbers.

- Put the inferior fraction numbers on the font baseline.

- Negative space the 'fraction/solidus' so that the superior and inferior numbers fit correctly.

- Superior numbers are positioned higher than caps height to stand out in the text.

- Inferior numbers are positioned below the baseline.

- Fraction/solidus angle is steeper and sinks below the baseline.

- Superior and inferior letters are smaller that the numbers.

I just need a quick and dirty solution for those people who use simple fractions. I'm aware that an editor that needs complex fractions needs a math font. As most people don't need this, I just want to design my fonts in such a way that it works for most moderate users.

Ís there really a typographically correct way to do this, or is it up to the font designer? Does anyone have historical material on this topic?

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