Yves is right. Looks a bit like semibold SmallCaps, but that's hard to tell on a screen-printed shirt without some other letters. Bit the letterform of the Garamond is distinctive enough to be pretty sure even so. The letterspacing could be better, though :-D.
I agree with you Yves. It's all about the gut! --- If you train your eye to look at the fiddly details, often it is simply just one of those fiddly details that helps you with the ID. --- Yves has much better skills at this and it sounds like he's spent much more time, than I have, looking through the type specimen books. His ways are the best.
That S is a pretty good Garamond indicator, but nothing says Garamond like the two differently angled serifs on the top of the T. If Sylvian had a T in his name, that pretty much would have been a dead giveaway.
Even so, the screen printing made it a little harder to ID. Good job, Yves.
> How could you tell? And how could you be so sure? What's the giveaway?
Karen, I don't know very well how to answer that without sounding like the conceited arrogant ba$tard I am. ;P
In short, at first glance it "felt" like Adobe Garamond. This always plays a big part in those '3-minutes' ID's, and I don't know if anyone else can confirm that (Stephen, Chesh, Tiff, Hrant, anyone?) There's a certain balance, thoughtfulness and smoothness to the face that's undeniable (for me anyways). It's like placing my hand on my wife's hip: I don't know by any means what the exact curve should be or what the precise texture of her skin is like, but I can tell it's my wife's hip.
Once I got past the initial 'gut-feeling' stage, the serifs on the uc 'S' told me it was a Slimbach design, and both the shape of the nick at the apex of the uc 'A' and the overall weight distribution confirmed it was Adobe Garamond. I didn't even check. ;P
I warned you for the 'conceited arrogant ba$tard' bit!
And now somebody comes in and proves it's Garamond BQ or whatever :/
> IS rather difficult to ID the serif type comparing to the sans...
You're right, especially all-caps. If it weren't for 'gut-feeling', I would've needed a run through the FontBook or at least some looking-up in Rookledge's. Furthermore, there's more than a few 'Garamonds' around, and even more related and similar typefaces.
> it sounds like he's spent much more time, than I have, looking through the type specimen books.
You hit it on the head Tiff, but did you really have to say that out loud? Now I sound like a total and utter nerd. There goes my street credibility... I hope I don't get kicked out of my rock band. =D
16 Jun 2003 — 3:29am
16 Jun 2003 — 3:42am
Hey Yves,
How could you tell? And how could you be so sure? What's the giveaway?
I don't know how to id Garamond, esp not in upper case.
Thanks!
16 Jun 2003 — 3:48am
Yves is right. Looks a bit like semibold SmallCaps, but that's hard to tell on a screen-printed shirt without some other letters. Bit the letterform of the Garamond is distinctive enough to be pretty sure even so.
The letterspacing could be better, though :-D.
16 Jun 2003 — 8:53am
I agree with you Yves. It's all about the gut! --- If you train your eye to look at the fiddly details, often it is simply just one of those fiddly details that helps you with the ID. --- Yves has much better skills at this and it sounds like he's spent much more time, than I have, looking through the type specimen books. His ways are the best.

16 Jun 2003 — 9:41am
That S is a pretty good Garamond indicator, but nothing says Garamond like the two differently angled serifs on the top of the T. If Sylvian had a T in his name, that pretty much would have been a dead giveaway.
Even so, the screen printing made it a little harder to ID. Good job, Yves.
16 Jun 2003 — 11:09pm
Thanks guys!
With tips like these I could put up with worse arrogant bastardry.
:-)
16 Jun 2003 — 11:19pm
Sylvian does have a T in his name: David "Throatwarbler" Sylvian.
-- always an important post from Paul
16 Jun 2003 — 3:25am
Plain ole' Adobe Garamond ;-)
16 Jun 2003 — 4:56am
> How could you tell? And how could you be so sure?
What's the giveaway?
Karen, I don't know very well how to answer that without
sounding like the conceited arrogant ba$tard I am. ;P
In short, at first glance it "felt" like Adobe Garamond. This
always plays a big part in those '3-minutes' ID's, and I don't
know if anyone else can confirm that (Stephen, Chesh, Tiff,
Hrant, anyone?) There's a certain balance, thoughtfulness and
smoothness to the face that's undeniable (for me anyways).
It's like placing my hand on my wife's hip: I don't know by any
means what the exact curve should be or what the precise
texture of her skin is like, but I can tell it's my wife's hip.
Once I got past the initial 'gut-feeling' stage, the serifs on
the uc 'S' told me it was a Slimbach design, and both the
shape of the nick at the apex of the uc 'A' and the overall
weight distribution confirmed it was Adobe Garamond. I didn't
even check. ;P
I warned you for the 'conceited arrogant ba$tard' bit!
And now somebody comes in and proves it's Garamond BQ
or whatever :/
16 Jun 2003 — 5:08am
> IS rather difficult to ID the serif type comparing to the sans...
You're right, especially all-caps. If it weren't for 'gut-feeling',
I would've needed a run through the FontBook or at least
some looking-up in Rookledge's.
Furthermore, there's more than a few 'Garamonds' around,
and even more related and similar typefaces.
17 Jun 2003 — 12:11am
> it sounds like he's spent much more time, than I have,
looking through the type specimen books.
You hit it on the head Tiff, but did you really have to
say that out loud? Now I sound like a total and utter
nerd. There goes my street credibility... I hope I don't
get kicked out of my rock band. =D