(x) Titles of Kill Bill - Friz Quadrata (amongst others) {Justin Callaghan}

jonathanlawley's picture

Does anyone remember the name of the serif used in the titles of Kill Bill. The two-story g did not close and the foot of the R did not touch the stem.

Thank you

bowfinpw's picture

If there is any way you can show a sample, that would help a lot. Some people make notes about the title typefaces (presumably), but I am not one of them, and I didn't see the movie anyway.

Mark Simonson's picture

What I usually do is to sneak a small digital camera into the theater. I sometimes have to sit through several showings to get good shots of the main titles, not to mention any other type that is used in a film--especially if it is used badly.

As you might imagine, this is rather time consuming. Fortunately there are several theaters I know of that are in range of a WiFi hot spot. (It's more common than you might think, but, considering the density of Starbucks, not that surprising.) So, what I do is sneak my TiBook in as well. That way I can keep up with the Type ID Board and not miss out on getting the jump on anyone else here.

I can usually ID fonts on sight, but there are many times I wish I had my type specimen books with me. (I used to bring Jaspert, McGrew, FontBook, and a few others, but it was killing my back.) Fortunately, with the WiFi connection, I can at least check the online specimens at MyFonts and the rest.

Right now, in fact, I'm sitting through the second showing of The Haunted Mansion. It's really bad, but there is a scene near the beginning of the third act where they are looking at this "old" book and the title is set in Matrix (can you believe it?!). I would have gotten it in the previous showing, but an usher was standing nearby. It would have been too hard to explain.

I should cut this short since the scene is coming up pretty soon. What's really annoying is, I bought a box of Milk Duds at the snack counter. I tried to eat too many at once and now I can't seem to get my tongue out of my cheek.

Anyway, I haven't seen Kill Bill yet, so I can't help you with that one.

bowfinpw's picture

Mark, you just described what sounds like the secret fantasy of many of us Fontoholics. Great piece!

Mark Simonson's picture

Thanks, guys. Jonathan's post struck me as slighly absurd (no offense, Jonathan--I'm sure someone will ID it eventually). I couldn't resist taking it a bit further.

franz's picture

Uhm, I actually do take pictures of the credits.. I guess that makes me look pretty stupid now. Don't have anything from Kill Bill though, I was probably too blown away by the film.

I seem to remember that the text titles between the chapters were set in Futura, although I might be confusing this with another movie.. And that's probably not the face you're looking for (serif? two-story g?), unless either one of us is completely deranged typographically. :-)

Mark Simonson's picture

Uhm, I actually do take pictures of the credits.. I guess that makes me look pretty stupid now.

Not really. That part wasn't far-fetched at all. There are people who bring video cameras, in fact. Back in college in the mid-seventies I brought a 35mm camera into a showing of 2001: A Space Odyssey and took a dozen or so pictures. I was a little obsessed with that movie at the time.

I have to confess, my little story was partly inspired by a chapter in the book "A Year At The Movies" by Kevin Murphy. Murphy went to a different public showing of a movie every day for a year, and then wrote a book about it. On Thanksgiving, he managed to smuggle an entire Thanksgiving dinner into a theater under a very large overcoat. Pretty funny stuff.

beejay's picture

very very funny Mark ... I'd love to see Cheshire Dave turn this
into a short video!
Adventures of a Typophile.

Lots of rich comic material to mine.

cheshiredave's picture

Call me gullible, but the only thing that made me think Mark's story was anything less than 100% believable was that he said he was in a showing of "Haunted Mansion"; if I recall correctly, that movie was out for precisely two minutes before it was pulled from theaters.

Yeah, Beej, I agree -- someone (I nominate you, pal) should do a MST3K-style movie depicting Mark at a screening, loudly decrying the typographic anachronisms.

dan's picture

Mark could you comment on the historical accuraccy of the type used in The Lord of the Rings?

beejay's picture

LOL.

i've been *wanting* to get Final Cut Pro real bad ever since it came out. *Someday*

What ever happened with the Secret Chesh Project?

Did I miss that announcement?

antiuser's picture

"Mark could you comment on the historical accuraccy of the type used in The Lord of the Rings?"

But how can one determine the accuracy of type from a fictional time?

cheshiredave's picture

The Secret Chesh Project is, uh, still secret for the time being, though script work and sketches have begun. If I can pull this off the way I see it in my head, I think it's going to be a lot of fun.

Mark Simonson's picture

I agree completely when it comes to films like Lord of the Rings. That goes for stories set in the future or in galaxies far, far away, too.

Mark Simonson's picture

Call me gullible, but the only thing that made me think Mark's story was anything less than 100% believable was that he said he was in a showing of "Haunted Mansion"; if I recall correctly, that movie was out for precisely two minutes before it was pulled from theaters.

Chesh, believe it or not, it really is showing at a theater here. I checked the movie listings this morning to find something suitable for the story and there it was. I did fudge a bit on the show times. The first showing wasn't for at least an hour after I posted, but, what with the unhinged time-sense of the Internet, I figured nobody would notice.

Gotta go. I think the guy sitting a couple seats over is getting annoyed by my typing.

pablohoney77's picture

>>Mark could you comment on the historical accuraccy of the type used in The Lord of the Rings?
All of the tengwar lettering (including the ring inscription) looked legit to me! ha ha. i actually did a post on here about making a tengwar OT font, not too much interest tho.
But i must say, ya'll should watch Kill Bill just for the opening credits. I thought that that may have been the best part of the movie! They just don't do credits like they used to in the good old days.
But although i saw the film, i couldn't id the font for you, sorry.

dan's picture

Guys, you don't know a joke? I personnaly haven't been to Middle Earth like it seems like a lifetime. Although I do want the Elfin workout tape on Elephant training.

gargoyle's picture

So yeah... the Kill Bill titles... there are a few...

Avant Garde for the proverb, a bit of Busorama for the studio titles... pause for the prelude... okay there's some Friz Quadrata (bold), then I'll be damned if that's not Bookman (bold, ITC?) for the film title. Followed by some more Avant Garde and Friz, throwing in a bit of Palatino to mix things up, then more of the AG/FQ combo, then back to Palatino, and finally Avant Garde for the Chapter titles.

Certainly one of the more, er, 'typographically-rich' title sequences in recent memory.

So the 'R' could be either Friz Quadrata or Palatino, but the non-closing 'g' could only be Friz, even though I don't recall seeing any lowercase...?

Oh, and the end credits are Bookman again.

Mark Simonson's picture

I thought so. But remember, on the internet, nobody can see the twinkle in your eye. ;-)

eomine's picture

Those were created by Gregory Cadars.
See the official Typophile announcement (March.03) here.

franz's picture

Nooo! This thread sounded like a great challenge, so I got myself a copy of Kill Bill.. and now Justin has already IDd every single typeface. Good job though. :-)

I'll try to enjoy the movie nonetheless. :-)

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pablohoney77's picture

The only font i coulda id'd from that movie was Action Is on the back of the "Pussy Wagon" but that one's a bit too easy.

franz's picture

Thanks Yves! I'm just reading this so relatively speaking you're not late at all. I did get very nice presents, including several nifty sketchbooks and a Typography book. Hooray for Amazon wishlists! :-)

It's been one very busy week full of deadlines, so busy in fact that I had to disable mail notification! Crazy, I know. :-) Have a lot of catching up to do now.. Feels great to be back though!

Bald Condensed's picture

Mark I love you!

Okay this might sound strange coming from a married dude
with kids but you know what I mean.

Stephen Coles's picture

Yves, I do know what you mean and I share your love for Mark without hesitation.

Bald Condensed's picture

I guess this point is moot as The Lord of The Rings is
set in a fictional time and universe, and as far as I
recall all text is hand-written or drawn or chiseled.

Bald Condensed's picture

> Guys, you don't know a joke?
>> I thought so. But remember, on the internet,
nobody can see the twinkle in your eye. ;-)


Exactly. Dan, check this handy list of smileys,
they work wonders. I've been in your predicament
more than once before I started to use them on a
regular basis.

I only wish all of them were as well designed as
the special Typophile ones. Who did those BTW?
:-( :-)

Bald Condensed's picture

Franz, if I only'd known! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! (One day
late but nevertheless...) Didyaget any kewl presents?

Bald Condensed's picture

> so busy in fact that I had to disable mail notification!

Ahaaa! That explains why I managed to get the occasional
ID last week. Well, it was fun while it lasted...

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