(x) intertitles in 1920's silents by Paramount - Post Monotone No. 2 {Mark S}

silentcinema's picture

Can anyone ID this or tell me of a font that looks the same (or awfully close)?

Thanks!

Ben
www.silentfilmmusic.com

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silentcinema's picture

Here's another image (not sure if this'll work) if it helps...

Stephen Coles's picture

Silentina was based on earlier silent films.

Jackie Frant's picture

Silenta is a wonderful face that looks like a near relative of ITC Korinna. (This face has more of a slab serif feel to it - and reminds me of Rockwell.)

In running your sample letters through WTF - it came up with 5 "similar" fonts -
of which I think if you are looking for a substitute - one of them might actually do the trick -
Eutheric Bold
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/typotheticals/eutheric/bold/

Please remember - this is only similar - not exact.

rtgbanks's picture

is that film Dr Caligari?

silentcinema's picture

These are two intertitles from "PATHS TO PARADISE" (1925), starring Raymond Griffith, but I've seen this typeface used in lots and lots of Paramount silents from the early to mid-1920s. I already have Silentina, which is rather different from what I'm looking for, and which came into heavy use with all studios in the mid-to-late '20s.

Thanks for pointing me to Eutheric Bold. It is sorta close; kinda reminds me of a cross between bookman and silentina. It's possible if I try using Eutheric Bold and stretching it a wee bit I might get close.

Anyone else have some suggestions to match the typeface I'm looking for would be much appreciated.

Ben

silentcinema's picture

Pardon my ignorance, but can anyone recommend a user-friendly, basic, type-editing software? Thanks...

pattyfab's picture

I'd try a slab like Stymie or Rockwell altho neither of those has the double storey g.

Miss Tiffany's picture

Meyer Two from Font Bureau's own incorrigible David Berlow is based on silent film era lettering. I recall he showed another font at a conference, Rome I think, that was even closer still.

[Edit: I meant, "based upon the fonts which were based upon the lettering for Louis B. Meyer."]

Mark Simonson's picture

The font in question was called Post Monotone No. 2. You can see it on page 256 of MacGrew's American Metal Typefaces of the Twentieth Century. I don't think it has been digitized.

Mark Simonson's picture

Incidentally, "Silentina" is based on an old BB&S face called Pastel, which was often used for silent movie intertitles.

Mike F's picture

Not a match, by any means, but the thread brought to mind the lettering of Elizabeth Colwell from the early 1920s. Two fonts made from this are Nick Curtis' McKenna Handletter and Andrew Lehman's HPLHS Colwell. There's also Fleisch & apostrophe's Colwell from her earlier (1916) work - but that's even further afield from the type sought.

Thanks, Mark, for catching this ID.

Oh, and props to Ray Larabie for the nice work on Silentina. Mark, perhaps you could answer a question about the Silentina pair that's been nagging at me. I've got a 1925 BB&S Catalog, so I know that Silentina Movie, including the alternates, was made from Pastel. Any idea where Silentina Film's different capitals come from?

Jackie Frant's picture

Mike - thank you for directing us to HPLHS - I LOVE the prop CD and can use it (alot!) for one of the theatre groups I work with. I've always re-created by hand, taking hours, and not charging them for that labor. What a nice treat this Wednesday morning...

Mark Simonson's picture

Any idea where Silentina Film’s different capitals come from?

As a matter of fact, I do.

A guy named Rodney Sauer, a musician who is also involved with restoring silent movies, contacted me about five years ago about identifying the typeface used for the intertitles in a certain film (or series of films, possibly). It turned out to be Pastel, but in some of the samples he had, the caps looked more like Della Robbia.

I did a rough digitization of Pastel for him, but he really wanted the other caps. I said I would see what I could do, but got too busy with other projects and I ended up never finishing it.

Fast-forward two years and Ray Larabie releases Silentina. It turns out that Rodney gave up waiting for me and went to Ray. In the end I think Ray did a decent job of it and I tip my hat to him.

Mike F's picture

Aha. Thanks for scratching that itch, Mark.

Jackie - Good to see you here. I'm glad that HPLHS link proved so useful. Did you know that Andrew Leman also sells more revival fonts via MyFonts under the Ephemera label? I just purchased his Julius Klinger fonts for my wife's event fliers and inserts.

Jackie Frant's picture

MIke, Satisfaction is one of my favorite fonts—when I must sign my name on an electronic piece that I've designed, I always use it as my signature...

In a different life, I would have used Harold's "imitation" font -- I'm a sucker for a great looking casual script.

I'd like to see some of your wife's event fliers. I can't imagine Julius Klinger set for more than a few words, and would like to see the use she made of it. :-)

And MIke, I've been here a long while, I just never spoke up. And then one day, I saw the dafont thread - and got pissed. And you know me when I'm pissed... LOL

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