What should I use for a Water Polo Drills book?

j_polo9's picture

So I am making a book for all the drills I use for a season of water polo. I'm wondering what font I should set it in. Also other fonts that would compliment well as a header font. Thanks!
-Jesse

Stephen Coles's picture

Oh my, anything could do. Perhaps ask John Downer, perhaps the only type designer who is also an avid water polo player. He'd be thrilled you mailed him.

j_polo9's picture

anything :~/ I think that's my problem with type. It seems so daunting to me that I can't really narrow type down from everything. So many choices...

But, I would love to email Mr. Downer. Is he a member here?

Stephen Coles's picture

Can be daunting, yes. Since the subject matter doesn't help us much on this one, start with some simple descriptive words, feelings. What is the attitude of the publication? Who is the audience? Modern, tough, aggressive, bold?

timd's picture

Do you have illustrations for the drills? Do they have a style that the font should be associated with? Are the drills short sentences or more complex paragraphs?

An off-the-cuff idea for a watery typeface
http://www.myfonts.com/search?search%5Btext%5D=blue+island

Tim

j_polo9's picture

hmm, I would say agressive and Modern sound good. It is just a personal book for myself but I would still like it to look nice of course. There are illustrations but i need to re-illustrate them. The paragraphs can be short or complex depending on the drill.

What other questions should I be thinking about like the ones you have already asked?

timd's picture

Some more questions that need thinking about in conjunction with type choice

What size is the book? (do you have a measure or a grid designed?)

How is it being printed? (in colour, b&w, laser, lithography; encapsulated to waterproof it)

Should the audience be able to read it in a group? (and in this case perhaps be in a pool and showed the book from the edge)

Is it important to have the whole drill on one page?

Tim

Solipsism's picture

Helvetica

j_polo9's picture

Thanks timd!

For now I am just printing out the book on my nice hp 7310. But Once i finish it I will probably want it printed at a shop and either on water proof paper or encapsulated (i've never heard of this before unless you just mean like laminated?). Now that I think about it the shop can probably print at a variety of sizes, any suggestions on what sizes I should consider?

Right now I am thinking of doing it spiral bound with tabs for the different sections. Does anyone know of a website that specializes in this with short run jobs?

The only audience will be me and the other coaches. So the kids won't need to see it. The drill explinations are fairly short so I don't carry them over to the next page.

Solipsism: i am assuming that is a sarcastic answer?

thierry blancpain's picture

printing it on neobond, the paper used by underware for their sauna specimen book, could be an idea.

i printed a page of it on my inkjet and of course an intensive showering spoiled most of the ink away, but maybe with laser it will be different. get some samples from a paperstore that has it and just try. either way, its a great paper that will easily withstand wet and steamy enviroments. a lovely paper.

Solipsism's picture

j_polo9:
Yes. Do we have a sarcasm symbol developed yet?

timd's picture

Well, I imagine that a US equivalent of A4 (210x297mm) used landscape, with binding on the long edge will be the most useful, you will be best to choose a standard size so that folders, wire bindings or envelopes will fit easily and so your printer will run them without need for trimming.
Encapsulating is covering both sides and extending to protect the edges, laminating is protecting one side, but these terms are interchangeable in most circumstances.
I guess this is leading to a sans at quite a large size (14-18pt) with generous leading, the choice is still daunting, maybe try a whole selection of typefaces with a page of live text, print them out and whittle them down to what you feel works best or that you find most attractive. Helvetica may take a bashing these days but it can work.
Tim

j_polo9's picture

well i used to use helvetica neue, minion, univers, or myriad for pretty much everything because I thought they looked good. Before that I knew nothing and used arial or times :P

So I'm wondering where i should go now?

timd's picture

You could go more humanist – Gill, Bliss, John Sans, Dederon. Choice of typeface is not the whole story though.
Tim

j_polo9's picture

humanist sounds good. What are some more humanist faces with a lot of character?

Also what else is part of the story? (I assume you mean layout, stock, content, etc.) Also what do you think about first when designing something like this? what is the normal heirchy of decisions to be made?

timd's picture

Not sure of the normal hierarchy, but my first thoughts when faced with a project are how is it being produced (size, printing, stock, finishing), who is the audience (age range etc.), what is the content (images, illustrations, tables etc.) and what is the point of the piece (information, advertisement, promotional etc.). Other questions spiral from this. I don't really put one point as more important than the other.
Tim

KenBessie's picture

Keeping the questions that timd poses foremost in your brain, decide on one element (whether that be a color, a typeface, a style of illustration, etc.). It's sort of an arbitrary decision, but you need a starting place. All other decisions and all other elements need to bear some relationship to this first element.

As you apply more elements, you might decide that your first (arbitrary) element needs to be changed or modified.

j_polo9's picture

cool thanks!

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