Need Feedback on "logo"

marshimaro's picture

Hey there.

I am trying to define my own companies logo.

Heller means "brighter" in the german language. Therefore i want to use a abstract "SUN".

The letters are constructed. But something is wrong- especially with the "e" `s

I cant figure it out.

Please check.
thanks.

marshimaro "heller"

"According to your tips i changes some thing" Please check. thanks

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Grot Esqué's picture

The horizontals are too thick.

(Edit-a-bit: the horizontals of the e’s. Maybe excluding the middle one. :^)

Chris Keegan's picture

I think "l" should be thicker. I think the radius of the corners is too large. The left side of the "e" looks too thick. The counters in the "e" look too small.

SuperUltraFabulous's picture

Hi there: the star or the sun seems a little too small in relation to the size of the word heller.

Mikey

ahellerax's picture

I completely agree with SuperUltraFabulous that the sun graphic should be larger. Right now it looks like an asterisk, which (at least in America, I don't know about elsewhere) means that there's a footnote attached, which may not be the best message you want to send with your logo.

As far as the type goes, I would recommend that you use a typeface that already exists instead of trying to create your own. There are fonts out there made by designers taking into account minute details that you or I would never even catch. It'd be easier but more importantly you'd definitely end up with a better and more professional looking logo.

marshimaro's picture

Thanks for your comments. really interesting as i have no clue about type design.

as far as ahellerax goes i should stop doing that and looking for a already fixed one.

Does any of you may know some fonttypes which are similar to my more or less desired appearance. ?

Thanks a lot.

Lex Kominek's picture

I actually like your constructed "font". A couple of questions though:

1. Why is the second 'e' different from the first? The counter is much bigger in the second one, and I think it looks better. I agree that the horizontals (especially the bottom one) should be slightly thinner in the 'e'.

2. What type of company is this? When I look at it, I think of power tools. Do you make cordless drills? If so keep the logo. Do you make fancy pastries? If so, dump the logo.

The size of the star/sun/asterix actually works for me. Try placing it in different positions (such as before "Heller", as the counter of the 'e's, &c.) and see what happens. I also like the rounded 'r' better than the one with the 90 degree corner.

- Lex

marshimaro's picture

Dear Lex,

I like you :-)

Please check the changed files. I corrected the horizontals as well as the "l"`s.

the company is a creative studio. http://www.heller.tv not much to see yet.
I am a architect and we are doing webstuff, 3d animations, art directoring etc...

thanks for your eyes.

marcel

p.s i could not attach images to this reply. so i attached them to the forst post ?

timd's picture

I think the problem with your e's are that they are slightly too short, in the way that in a more conventional typeface the rounded characters are slightly taller than the squarer characters to visually compensate for their shape so that in a line of type they appear to be of the same height. Try slightly increasing the height of the e's (or reducing the height of the r and the lower part of the h) until they appear to be of equal height. I like the shape and position of the sun/cog/asterix (partly because it is ambiguous and has that missing footnote feeling), although you might have to enlarge it or reduce its points for some uses.
Tim

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marshimaro's picture

Thanks for the comments on the "e". I will work on that.

I also changed the proportion between the vertical and the horizontal in the "e". /sorry i dont know the ecaxt words...

The second image shows a more condensed option of the e.

What do you think, ?

marshimaro's picture

I now changed the position of the e and pushed it slightly down.

timd's picture

I meant that the e's should actually be taller than the x-height, the overshoot should take place at the bottom and top of the letters and only needs to be very slight. I think you can also reduce the open counter of the h horizontally which will improve the kerning of the logo as well.

Tim

mikeb7's picture

in my opinion the e's are standing out too much and are scrambling the logo.. and i think the top bar of the e's is thicker than the one of the h and r

nice concept so far though

Ratbaggy's picture

typography aside, what happens when you reproduce the logo at a realistic size?

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Paul Ducco
Solid Creative

marshimaro's picture

Thanks for your infos..

I printed the logo in small sizes. Seems to be ok.
Problematic will be the Flash/webthing... I will check.
Thanks for the hint Ratbaggy.

I will put your suggestions into account.

cheers marcel

heller * | design studios

Grot Esqué's picture

The E’s are too tall now. Could it be sligthly lighter?

Isn’t there a design company called Heller? Orange Helvetica in the logo?

Edit-a-bit: Found it. http://www.helleronline.com/
There are quite a lot of companies called Heller, it seems.

marshimaro's picture

There are many out there.
Also big and famous fish.
But most of them aren`t architecture/design orientated...

thanks for the tips. i will put them inside...

heller * | design studios

Ratbaggy's picture

Looking good Marshi.

The asteriks I'm still unsure about.

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Paul Ducco
Graphic Design, Melbourne

dylan's picture

I agree. I'm wondering if you've already explored other options for the asteriks...would like to see them. The current feels...may I say it, 'generic.' How could you 'own' this mark?

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