Distil Sans concept

Jerome Iveson's picture

I'm new to type design but not typography. I'm a designer based in the UK and have always wanted to design a typeface. My first effort is for my company Distil hence Distil Sans. So far I've only done the light version and the lowercase letters using a combination of Iluustrator CS2 and Fontlab Studio 4.6. The other weights are mocked up using a stroke in illustrator but are close to what I would like the finished weights to be.

I'd be grateful for any feedback at this point

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fontplayer's picture

I like it, although the dark spots in the corners make me uneasy for some reason. Not that I'd change it, mind you. I'd like to see you set the "distil online shortly" message at your site with this.

Jerome Iveson's picture

cheers, I know what you mean about the darker corners but i wanted it to stand out slightly but have a modern feel like Neo Sans or Neo Tech.

Just finishing the other letterforms and adding some more weights, then I'll get the holding page changed. Cheers for the reminder. Then move on to designing the site itself!

Phil Baber's picture

I'm not a type designer, but rather a typographer/graphic
designer, but I will try and help you out.

I'm not too sure about the dark areas either. Although I think
it does work in certain letters such as 'u' 'q' 'y' and 'g'. For me
it definately doesn't work in 'm' 'k' 'e' 'a' 'r' and 'h'. Try and
think where such clotting might occur more naturally within
the letters, as it does seem over forced.

I don't like the shape of the 'w', 'x' or 'k'. Perhaps look at more
conventional shapes. It seems like you're trying too hard to
make it stand out and seem original, probably because it's your
first design. Don't be scared of really nice, but simple letters. I
think that a lot of peoples first type designs are quite gimmicky.

The bar on the 't' and 'f' needs to be stronger I feel.

The 'z' looks like it's leaning to the right. Perhaps extend he
baseline stroke to the right a little to balance it out more.

The 's' looks upside down.

The 'a' doesn't look right. Perhaps avoid the completely flat base.
The bowl also seems a little small and squashed vertically.

The 'e' looks a little awkward to me. Try extending the bottom
stroke and making that left side more curved.

A good start though, and good luck!

Phil

magnus_gaarde's picture

Hi
Nice first font, I like some of it and agree with the other critics on many points.

One more thing though:
The arm on the 'r' is way too long, it looks too much like a cropped 'n'.

Good luck with the font

Magnus

ebensorkin's picture

RE: cropped ‘n’

Totally.

I would loose those dark spots. They mess with the flow of the face & I don't think they are fun enough as is to keep.

Think about that e again. It should feel more different from your a - maybe grab a curce from the upper left side of your o.

For this face to look even it can't be litterally even. There are illusions at work. The problem becomes more & more obvious as the weight gets heavier. See it? If you do some searching on the web you will find references as to the why & how of this.

dezcom's picture

The problem with the dark spots is that they look totally unintentional. Is this type only for display or will it be also used for text sizes? Text faces are much less forgiving.

ChrisL

ebensorkin's picture

Even in a display face I think they are too uneven. I have an idea - what about biting them from the opposite side? The bites might be interesting if they were done well.

bootchec's picture

I love the idea with those dark spots. Cuple of letters look for me quite strange "e" in both and "a" in regular version only.

Jerome Iveson's picture

Thanks for the posts. As I'm completely new to type design its good to get feedback! I agree about the r and need to tweak the a and e. I'm working on the other weights and discovering themes and shapes which I may work back into the lighter weight. I hope you understand what I mean. The face is still work in progress.

I was going to buy the book Designing Type by, I think its Carol Chan? Are there any other good books or websites which can help me with the basics?

Jerome

dezcom's picture

A couple more:

http://www.flashfonts.com/flashsite/Booksp.1.2.html

Leslie Cabarga’s

Logo, Font & Lettering Bible

Learn Fontlab Fast

ChrisL

ebensorkin's picture

Also many many folks have asked this question on Typophile. Searching the site will yeild a bunch of new sources & sometimes arguements about their merits too.

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