(x) Looking for New Johnston - proprietary (various alternatives) {Bert (Stephen)}

Robin Stephens
21.Apr.2006 3.32am
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Hey all,
Does anybody know where I can get hold of a copy of NewJohnstone, (the font Transport for London uses), or something very similar?
Cheers.



Pieter van Rosmalen
21.Apr.2006 3.37am
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Hello Robin,

You can get is here:
http://www.p22.com/products/london.html

Pieter


bert_vanderveen
21.Apr.2006 5.04am
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@Pieter: you’re linking to the *old* typeface. I’ve read somewhere that some CI-agency did a redesign a couple of years ago. My guess is that Robin is referring to the redesigned typeface.

From
http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/learning/online_resources/ecobus_omnibus/pg/19...

“Wherever you go in London, you will see London Transport’s famous roundel logo. It first appeared as a solid red circle in 1908, and later evolved into a red circle which was registered as a trademark by 1918. The proportions were adapted to suit the new corporate typeface, Johnston Sans, designed by the calligrapher, Edward Johnston (1874-1944) in 1916. Pick had hired Johnston to create a more harmonious and balanced typeface than previously available. A modified version of Johnston’s typeface, New Johnston, is still used by London Transport today.”

From the wikipedia:
“Typography
Edward Johnston also designed Transport for London’s (TfL) distinctive sans-serif typeface in 1916. A version of the typeface, since modified to include a lower case, continues in use today, and is called “New Johnston”. The new typeface is noted for the curl at the bottom of the minuscule l, which other sans-serif typefaces have discarded, and for the diamond-shaped tittle on the minuscule i and j, whose shape also appears in the period / point / full stop and as the origin of other punctuation marks in the face. Transport for London “is the owner of all rights of copyright and otherwise now existing in the New Johnston typeface”; but a close approximation of the face exists in the TrueType computer font Paddington (not be confused with a different, very thick and slightly seriffed font of the same name).”

The good news is that you can request the font through this government agency:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/about/corp-design/fonts-click-through-license-...


Stephen Coles
21.Apr.2006 9.00am
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Bald Condensed
22.Apr.2006 1.07pm
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The listmaster strikes again. :^)

Where other IDers come up with single hits, Stewf somehow always manages to whup out comprehensive lists of typefaces that are similar or otherwise related. That’s why he was, is and always will be the Type Identification Daddy.

We are not worthy, sensei... ;^)


Robin Stephens
23.Apr.2006 12.07pm
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Wow what a great response. Thanks everybody that’s really helpful.

: )


Stephen Coles
24.Apr.2006 1.18am
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Thanks Yves. There’s a certain book to be released very soon that will explain the speed with which I can post these lists.


Miss Tiffany
24.Apr.2006 8.52am
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Book? You mean your brain has been mapped? ;^)


Bald Condensed
4.May.2006 1.40pm
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Yup, it took two dozen hefty volumes, but they finally managed to. :^D

How soon is “very soon” BTW — to me it feels like ages since we finished working on it. Where’s Erik when we need him? :^P


Stephen Coles
4.May.2006 3.49pm
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In a deep pit, working on FontBook proofs.


Miss Tiffany
4.May.2006 4.16pm
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You put Erik in a deep pit? ;^)


Lex Kominek
4.May.2006 5.16pm
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“It rubs the FontBook on its skin or else it gets the hose again.”

- Lex


Stephen Coles
4.May.2006 11.51pm
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Hilarious.


Bald Condensed
6.May.2006 3.34pm
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So would that make you the deranged serial killer in the flowery dress, Stephen? :^P


Bald Condensed
6.May.2006 3.50pm
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BTW, have a gander at this. :^)