Career change into graphic design

axm
18.Apr.2006 9.12am
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I have an undergrad degree in Engineering and am still working in Information technology. Following my lifelong passion for design, I finally enrolled at Rochester Institute of Technology part time as a graphic design undergrad student. I still work full time and take foundation level art classes in the evenings. I do plan to attend school full time in NYC when my husband is done with school in Rochester(he is changing careers into commercial photography).
Questions - I don’t want a super academic school, I do not want to end up teaching (I hope not). I have already worked in web design firms in a technical capacity and worked on a lot of web sites (construction, not design, but good sites none the less). What school is in touch with reality? I had heard good things about SVA. Parsons - my impression is that it is full of youngsters who think they are the next celebrity designer. I am 32 years old, married, and a no nonsense person. Things like campus life don’t worry me in the least, I am only concerned about a quality education.
Also, Parsons has a 2 year degree (AAS) that they say is geared towards career changers, but they could not put me in touch with any teachers. Does the AAS count? I am not too keen on another 4 year degree but don’t think I have what it takes to get into a grad program, those sound too advanced frankly. Should I try the associates route, try to find a job and then see. Frankly 4 years in school seems risky and a tad out of touch with what could be the outcome of that education.
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated. How about MICA and RISD? Are those too academic? Thanks again..



pattyfab
18.Apr.2006 9.24am
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You might find some help in this thread:

http://typophile.com/node/16875


•Prakash Nair
18.Apr.2006 10.49am
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Does it really matter what art school it is? I think that a design from each institution tends to have a similar aesthetic. Not always, but most of the time. I would go for a school that is more conceptual based rather than anything else. I mean anyone can make pretty things.


axm
18.Apr.2006 11.02am
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Thanks. Would you suggest any schools?


•Prakash Nair
18.Apr.2006 11.53am
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Well I dont know how much of a factor money is but theres nothing that comes close of Dutch Design educations in Holland. They take graphic design very seriously over there and have entire institutions dedicated just to type-design! But also its ridiculously hard to get in. Something like 6 people per year out of thousands of candidates. As for US schools, possibly RSID would be my first choice.


dan_reynolds
18.Apr.2006 12.15pm
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A lot of older students who have degrees in other fields go to RISD; when I was there (as a youngling), the older students could finish the four-year BFA in two to three years, depending. I recommend RISD whole-heartedly.


dezcom
18.Apr.2006 12.19pm
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If you go to RISD, say hello to Hans VanDyjk for me and tell him to feed his cats!

ChrisL


axm
19.Apr.2006 6.57am
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The general idea I got about RISD was that the education is aimed towards making a good teacher out of you and not get you a job. I frankly dont know if RISD is an option due to the location. Any ideas about Parsons vs SVA? I gather from the other post that Pratt is probably not worth it.


dan_reynolds
19.Apr.2006 7.52am
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The general idea I got about RISD was that the education is aimed towards making a good teacher out of you and not get you a job.

That might be true about the grad program. But you would be looking at the undergrad program, I imagine.

The only nice things that NYC schools have to offer, in my opinion, is proximity to New York designers.


axm
19.Apr.2006 8.01am
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So, it seems the general consensus for undergrad is RISD. When I spoke to their dept head, she suggested applying for the grad program as well saying that they tack on a year’s worth of work for people coming from unrelated disciplines. I dont know if I can go to RI, since my husband plans to work as a commercial photographer in NYC. So, no one has anything good to say about SVA? or Parsons? Are they just bad?


pattyfab
19.Apr.2006 8.48am
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My ex taught at Parsons and was not that impressed with the student body. I’ve always heard good things about SVA and Pratt (despite the other thread). FIT is also an option and, I believe cheaper. You could also apply to NYU’s Interactive Telecommunications Program if you’re interested in the more interactive side of design. It’s not a graphic design program but more geared towards new technology.


axm
20.Apr.2006 11.33am
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Thanks for all your responses. On a slightly different note, I found out that Mica has a Post-Baccalaureate Certificate Program that prepares students from unrelated backgrounds to apply to grad school. Now, I am not sure if this is for fine art only, but I am wondering if grad programs in graphic design are generally geared towards teachers. Any insights would be appreciated.


dezcom
20.Apr.2006 12.11pm
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I think that grad programs vary from school to school. I went to graduate school in Visual Communication Design at Ohio State and they had 2 programs,one for teaching and one for design practice and management. That was over 30 years ago though.

ChrisL