What I like about the idea, even if it wasn't ment to be, is the way this type becomes a colour (gray) of its own. Interesting would to combine this with a text type. In which you experiment with the width and the distance between the 'lines'. You could even try to make a family with for example 9 wheights (10% gray, 20% gray, etc....)
Nice, Andrew. Interestingly, I've done something very similar some time ago:
In my case, it wasn't exactly a "scanline" font, as I used both odd and even lines as I wished. It was made for a small project, and I didn't bother then to design all characters, only letters and numerals. Also, some of these characters weren't really worked up, as they wouldn't be used at all.
I like the narrow fit of your characters, and the color is quite even.
Andrew, nice stuff. BTW, it reminds me a little of those letters on clothing/towel tags and such.
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Rodolfo, what about that font you used for your typographi.ca banner? (V2000?) It looks interesting, like it has *vertical* scanlines, and it's made of two fonts that combine in different colors or something... Wazzat?
Jacques - I don't believe I fully understand what you're saying - but what I think are your ideas are interesting - I'd imagine transposing the 'texture' of this font under a different / more typical screen font could maybe lead to some surprises.
the font came from a few different ideas, most prevalent was the old DOS boot-up screen font; I'm pretty sure that has the same 'scanline' look to it. also old fonts that worked w/ dot matrix printers... anyway there's gotta be at least a few fonts like this already in existence... like rodolfo's ;)
found the limitations in making this font to be interesting though, which is pretty much why I made it.. I definitely agree with you stephen about the 'y'... sticks out like a sore thumb actually
again thanks very much for your comments and ideas. it means a lot, I don't know what I'm doing :D
Andrew, make Paul Rand with his striped version of City for IBM the first of us. ;) Your face has merits, mine was an incomplete one-off affair. About the 'y': what's interesting is that you've achieved almost an italic construction in letters like b, g. Quite a feat, considering the constraints. You should try to obtain the same suppleness in other characters, like the y that's been mentioned. Just as an experiment, I've tried two alternatives to your y:
I've also fiddled with the v and the d (in the word 'traded'). You could try to 'italicize' more your design (italicize, not slant ;)
>Rodolfo, what about that font you used for your typographi.ca banner? (V2000?) It looks interesting, like it has *vertical* scanlines, and it's made of two fonts that combine in different colors or something... Wazzat?
Hrant, that 'font' was done in fact for print. It was a set of pseudo-bitmaps I designed to use in a poster. The idea was that odd and even "vertical scanlines" were differently colored - but with some "pixels" out of place according to letter structure (in the case of the typographica banner, *many* pixels). This construction principle allowed different shapes to emerge. I think I have an image of the thing as it was used somewhere. If I find it, I'll post it. V2000 was a codename (the poster was called "Verão 2000", which means "Summer 2000".)
it is maybe difficult to see, but i made 9 a's with 9 different stroke thickness. This leads to a kind of grayscale. I used appr. 30° angled strokes. And the distance between the strokes i in all 9 a's equal.
Rodolfo, the changes you've made work well for me, especially the 'd' which is a great improvement - same with the two 'y' characters... I think I'll do more fiddling :D
Jacques, I see what you mean. I doubt your idea would be possible for me - although it's worth trying, if only for the fact that it would be impossible ;)
It seems nothing hasn't been said, this *is* a very nice face. One thing I appreciate the most is that while it may qualify as a bitmap font by construction, because of it's color it is very readable as well as legible due to the fact that it does have a somewhat humanist bent. Very nice. -- As for usage, what about mobile phones or PDAs?
Hmm...is that font actionscripted or just straight drawn Fonthausen? Very interesting idea if actionscripted...I have long thought of making a non-bitmap actionscripted font. This could be done using just lines and circles...
2 Aug 2002 — 1:29am
Really nice & coherent specimen!
But what happened to the 4?
G.
2 Aug 2002 — 1:36am
This looks good. Fine work.
What I like about the idea, even if it wasn't ment to be, is the way this type becomes a colour (gray) of its own.
Interesting would to combine this with a text type. In which you experiment with the width and the distance between the 'lines'.
You could even try to make a family with for example 9 wheights (10% gray, 20% gray, etc....)
Jacques
2 Aug 2002 — 9:33am
And have a "base" font too, for coloring.
hhp
4 Aug 2002 — 1:36pm
it looks like an interlaced gif halfway downloaded. its great. was that the intention?
4 Aug 2002 — 9:40pm
It's genius, Andrew. Like the work on your site
it is both technocool and useful. Splendid.
I don't see anything wrong with the '4', but I'd
like to see a 'y' with a tail like the 'g's tail.
Do not give this font away.
Stephen
5 Aug 2002 — 11:27am
Nice, Andrew. Interestingly, I've done something
very similar some time ago:
In my case, it wasn't exactly a "scanline" font,
as I used both odd and even lines as I wished. It
was made for a small project, and I didn't bother
then to design all characters, only letters and
numerals. Also, some of these characters weren't
really worked up, as they wouldn't be used at all.
I like the narrow fit of your characters, and the
color is quite even.
regards,
R
5 Aug 2002 — 12:36pm
Andrew, nice stuff. BTW, it reminds me a little of those letters on clothing/towel tags and such.
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Rodolfo, what about that font you used for your typographi.ca banner? (V2000?) It looks interesting, like it has *vertical* scanlines, and it's made of two fonts that combine in different colors or something... Wazzat?
hhp
5 Aug 2002 — 7:08pm
thanks so much for the replies
Jacques - I don't believe I fully understand what you're saying - but what I think are your ideas are interesting - I'd imagine transposing the 'texture' of this font under a different / more typical screen font could maybe lead to some surprises.
the font came from a few different ideas, most prevalent was the old DOS boot-up screen font; I'm pretty sure that has the same 'scanline' look to it. also old fonts that worked w/ dot matrix printers... anyway there's gotta be at least a few fonts like this already in existence... like rodolfo's ;)
found the limitations in making this font to be interesting though, which is pretty much why I made it.. I definitely agree with you stephen about the 'y'... sticks out like a sore thumb actually
again thanks very much for your comments and ideas. it means a lot, I don't know what I'm doing :D
- andrew
5 Aug 2002 — 8:56pm
Andrew, make Paul Rand with his striped version
of City for IBM the first of us. ;)
Your face has merits, mine was an incomplete
one-off affair.
About the 'y': what's interesting is that you've
achieved almost an italic construction in letters
like b, g. Quite a feat, considering the
constraints. You should try to obtain the same
suppleness in other characters, like the y that's
been mentioned. Just as an experiment, I've tried
two alternatives to your y:
I've also fiddled with the v and the d (in the word
'traded'). You could try to 'italicize' more your
design (italicize, not slant ;)
>Rodolfo, what about that font you used for your typographi.ca banner? (V2000?) It looks interesting, like it has *vertical* scanlines, and it's made of two fonts that combine in different colors or something... Wazzat?
Hrant, that 'font' was done in fact for print. It
was a set of pseudo-bitmaps I designed to use in
a poster. The idea was that odd and even "vertical
scanlines" were differently colored - but with some
"pixels" out of place according to letter structure
(in the case of the typographica banner, *many*
pixels). This construction principle allowed different
shapes to emerge. I think I have an image of the
thing as it was used somewhere. If I find it, I'll
post it. V2000 was a codename (the poster was
called "Verão 2000", which means "Summer 2000".)
6 Aug 2002 — 6:17am
Hi Andrew,
Ive made a very quick Pix to show what i meant.
Jacques
grayscaletype.swf (25 k)
6 Aug 2002 — 6:22am
it is maybe difficult to see, but i made 9 a's with 9 different stroke thickness. This leads to a kind of grayscale.
I used appr. 30° angled strokes. And the distance between the strokes i in all 9 a's equal.
This is the principle I meant.
6 Aug 2002 — 7:50pm
Rodolfo, the changes you've made work well for me, especially the 'd' which is a great improvement - same with the two 'y' characters... I think I'll do more fiddling :D
Jacques, I see what you mean. I doubt your idea would be possible for me - although it's worth trying, if only for the fact that it would be impossible ;)
7 Aug 2002 — 8:56am
It seems nothing hasn't been said, this *is* a very nice face. One thing I appreciate the most is that while it may qualify as a bitmap font by construction, because of it's color it is very readable as well as legible due to the fact that it does have a somewhat humanist bent. Very nice. -- As for usage, what about mobile phones or PDAs?
7 Aug 2002 — 2:37pm
Hmm...is that font actionscripted or just straight drawn Fonthausen? Very interesting idea if actionscripted...I have long thought of making a non-bitmap actionscripted font. This could be done using just lines and circles...
Matthew
8 Aug 2002 — 12:43am
Matthew,
to be honest it is just drawn. But your Idea is good. Or for print, we could think about MM!
Jacques
PS: waarom kan ik jouw website Nederlands instellen? Ben jij nederlands, of spreek je het misschien?