Patua

luciano_vergara's picture

Hello, My name is Luciano Vergara, i'm from Chile and I'm new in this forum, but not in this site.
The reason that bring me to this place, it's help, cause' i'm also new in typedesign, actually this is my first attempt to design a text font.
Let me explain a little about this type, it's a font for small sizes and low resolution paper like newspaper and dictionaries, this version is the base for the family "Patuda".
I need your comments and critics for finished this version and working in the book version and the rest.
For the actually estate of "Patuda" please print the pdf, because it's very important the printed function.
Please excuse my bad English, I am also speak and write an awful spanish. if you answer in spanish i'll be grateful. Thanks and bye for now.


application/pdfpruba de texto patua-regular
prueba patua.pdf (34.3 k)

luciano_vergara's picture

Please critique this "patua"patua in gif

luciano_vergara's picture

Please critique this "patua"

John Hudson's picture

Luciano, the text samples in the PDF look very good, indicating that the lowercase is in a good state. Can you provide some text in a language that uses the letter k? This is the only lowercase letter that looks a little weak. The lower left stroke of the g looks a bit dark compared to the top, diagonal stroke of the lower bowl: try transferring just a little weight between these strokes.

The uppercase has some weight problems: Z, in particular, is very heavy compared to the other letters. Also try making the stem of the J just very slight lighter: it looks darker than the other vertical stems because it is longer. I like the large bowl of the P very much. The middle of the S is a bit heavy.

Can you provide a few lines of text set in all uppercase? In the image above and the PDF the baseline overshoot of the C looks extreme, but that may be the effect of seeing it between the B and D.

luciano_vergara's picture

very very Thanks, the new PDF contain text in uppercase and text in english and velga.


application/pdf
patua2.pdf (18.5 k)

luciano_vergara's picture

very very Thanks, the new PDF contain text in uppercase and text in english and velga.

eomine's picture

I think the serifs are too heavy, but it seems to work fine for running text.
Suggestion: make the caps wider.

hrant's picture

Pretty nice! The "South American style" of type seems to be converging on this style. Some of your glyphs are very beautiful.

Some things:
Your vertical proportions are very good (especially for magazine setting).
The caps are maybe too small. Making them wider is probably best.
The "a" and "g" are too wide.
I'd remove the middle serif from the "w".
The "G" is too wide.
The "M" needs work.

I haven't looked at the spacing yet.

hhp

aquatoad's picture

Luciano,

Looks nice!

Some color issues as John pointed out.
Look at the horizontals on the: E,F,H,L,T,Z all too thick.
I agree the M is wonky. (straight sides?)
W too wide/square in the VV's

Chunky serifs are the new black.

Randy

John Hudson's picture

The k looks okay in text, although you could very slightly lower the connection to the upright and make the top diagonal arm reach a little bit further to the right.

Randy is right about the horizontals in the uppercase, but don't make them too thin.

The overshoot of the C looks okay in the all caps setting. The overshoot of the D could be reduced by a couple of units top and bottom.

I don't necessarily agree with Hrant and Eduardo about making the caps wider. I'm looking at what seems to me a very attractive magazine face, and in that context I think the narrow caps are a good thing. If you make a book version of the face, that would be when to make the caps wider. However, the K should be a bit wider and the G a bit narrower.

luciano_vergara's picture

Thanks for all critiques and comments. Look at this new PDF with some changes. Over the uppercase in this variant of type

luciano_vergara's picture

Thanks for all critiques and comments. Look at this new PDF with some changes. Over the uppercase in this variant of type

hrant's picture

The spacing is a bit loose.
Your all-caps looks pretty sweet.

hhp

John Hudson's picture

The new k looks very good.

I think the middle apex of both W and w can be higher, especially in the uppercase.

Making versions for different sizes is an excellent idea.

I'm looking forward to seeing an italic.

John Hudson's picture

[Double post]

luciano_vergara's picture

hello typophiles, this is a new advance, thanks for your corrections.
Regards,
LV.


application/pdfpatua pdf
patua carta.pdf (55.1 k)

hrant's picture

Nice!

In the Roman, the "M" needs weight, and the "g" and "k" need work. I haven't looked at the italic, but it seems like it will have trouble standing out enough (as emphasis) - try making it slightly lighter.

hhp

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