typed characters wont appear in metrics window.

paul d hunt's picture

Has anyone else experienced this? In the Metrics window I'm typing characters directly and they won't appear. i can get them to show up if i type a slash before the character name, ie /ampersand for &, but it shouldn't be that hard. any ideas?

paul d hunt's picture

even odder... i just exported the fonts as TT fonts and tried printing from InDesign. They showed up in the app, but they would not print. What am i doing wrong?

dezcom's picture

Are you perhaps accidentally putting them in the mask layer? or are you missing a closepath?

ChrisL

paul d hunt's picture

well i was able to work around it by opening a new font and doing the Merge Fonts feature. I thought it may have been something to do with names or unicode not being generated properly, but i kept trying to regenrate both names and unicode without any avail. I'm baffled by this...

dezcom's picture

Was it a Multiple Master instance which retained the MM?
I had a problem with this once.
I ended up regenerating the font.

ChrisL

istitch's picture

i don't know if this is the same thing, but i had a similar problem recently in Fontographer when i imported the glyphs via an illustrator eps.

i was importing them just fine, but when i typed them out in the metrics window, they didn't show up. then when i exported the font, the glyphs showed up.

i found that it had to do with the fill in illustrator. i went back to illustrator, turned the fill off (also went into outline mode so i could see the glyphs), and re-imported them into Fontographer. this cleared up the problem. i have no idea why, or if that's the problem you are having but i hope it helps.

(side note)

however, importing the glyphs from illustrator lead to another issue having to do with the scale. it seemed like the glyphs would change size depending on the amount and placement of the glyphs that made up the import groups.

is this a common problem that is easy to fix? should i start a new thread?
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Mark Simonson's picture

FontLab doesn't let you do anything but 100% black. The Fontographer capability is for the virtually obsolete Type 3 font format which allowed such things. Imported art from Illustrator sometimes causes values other than 100% black to be used, causing problems with export of other font formats which don't allow such things.

Re: Your scaling problem. Are you working in FontLab or Fontographer?

Mark Simonson's picture

(BTW Paul, I have no answer for your problem. Sounds very odd.)

istitch's picture

>Scaling Problem

Importing (from illustrator- saved down to 3.0) groups of multiple glyphs into Fontographer.

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.'s picture

Paul, sounds to me like you're in "Names mode".
Click the "Codepages" button at the top of the Font window.
Now request a new Metrics window.
Type.

Was I right?

paul d hunt's picture

Click the “Codepages” button at the top of the Font window...

I tried this. I think my fonts must have somehow become corrupt. I guess it's time to send them to Yuri. Just wanted to make sure i didn't overlook something simple before troubling him.

.'s picture

Paul, are you in FLS5 Beta or FL45M?
I've seen some things in FLS5 where glyphs lose their identities, and the "regular" spaces of the Font window are blank. I just select all and choose "Glyph / Glyph Names / Reencode Glyphs..." Which assigns everything the right name and Unicode index.

Mark Simonson's picture

Scaling Problem
Importing (from illustrator- saved down to 3.0) groups of multiple glyphs into Fontographer.

Fontographer normally will scale artwork to the height of the em square. The trick is to include, as part of your artwork, a box or line that corresponds to the ascent and descent of your font. As long as your artwork is not taller than this box (or line), it will always import at the same scale. (This is a very old FOG trick that many wish FontLab could do.)

istitch's picture

thank you Mark.

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Marten Thavenius's picture

Paul, is it in FL or FOG that the preview problem appears? Win or Mac?

I've experienced that same problem in FL/Win when I opened a font that had the "MS Character Set" set to Symbol, and it wasn't a symbol font, in the Encoding and Unicode page in Font Info. Try to check that one.

/mårten

paul d hunt's picture

aha! that was the problem exactly. thank you so much, Mårten!

Jamien's picture

Thank you Istitch—removing fill in illustrator allowed me to see my font in the metrics window, also.

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