I'm having trouble finding a 'good' space-style typeface. I'm redesigning the 'man and space' time life book and would like something fun for a display face.
completely irrelevent to hwat is being discussed but can someone tell me how we now create font in the twenty first century? Any help would REALLY be appreciated I can not find anything anywhere!
thanks hrant for the sarcastically helpful reply but when you have a pedantic teacher for whom the phrase computer machines doesn't suffice you have to dig that little deeper. I'm doing a graphics design course and typography is the first module. I'm not partiularly enjoying it but it's better than most things. thanks any way!
thanks hrant for the sarcastically helpful reply but when you have a pedantic teacher for whom the phrase computer machines doesn't suffice you have to dig that little deeper. I'm doing a graphics design course and typography is the first module. I'm not partiularly enjoying it but it's better than most things. thanks any way!
OK, so you have a teacher who wants you to describe how fonts are made these days? I guess that's an interesting question. How much detail? Oh, and please start a new thread!
You can use every classic (everyday) typeface since most stylish, "modern" typefaces will look odd in the future. A sans would work too, if it reflects classic proportions.
Example: The futuristic TRON logo typeface looks really like 80ths today.
The book won't be timeless, but I do think it's a good point that using anything too kitchy would get dated very quickly. I'm designing this book to be removed from it's original 1960s context. More modern, but not too trendy.
Futura and avenir are classic, but not really the direction I'm hoping for. More technological I guess?
Where would we say space travel is today?
TRON looks like TRON and I like the 3Dline & flat shading. I dont know the sujet of "man & space", but if I have to choose between a doted face and futura the decision is easy.
Elsa,
thanks for thinking about Infinity. Much to my surprise, it has stood up pretty well in the years since it was published. If you'd like to contact me off-list at chester@vllg.com I can set you up with a trial font.
Best, c
I was going to suggest (in ascending order of retro) Letraset's Data 70, Countdown or BT Amelia. Now there's also Element or Union or Epps Evans, and Fontfont have a mass of bitmap faces, but hey - "to infinity and beyond!"
Nothing personal, Chester, it's just that where I work Infinity is the corporate brand typeface, for reasons best known to our advertisers (maybe they wanted to join the space race too?). They have saddled us with a corporate template that allows for 12pt Infinity ST Medium to be force justified with no hyphenation over a 79mm line length with only 2pts of leading. Because Infinity sets pretty wide (as the name suggests?) and the university uses a lot of long words that don't break, it is all too easy to figure that a good face can be used very badly indeed.
I hope it's treated much better in the the 'man and space' book elsac is working on... after all, it'll be used for display right?
Incidentally Chester did you have anything to do with Infinity Maori or is that just a local variant?
Hi Ben. I'm sorry to hear that Infinity is giving you issues at work. And, yes I created the Maori version of the fonts for the University. I proposed doing so, as I knew that the face did not support the language, being old school ISO 8859-1 format.
Kia ora Chester. It's not the font, just the way they insist on using it so badly that is my gripe (they also did this with with Brody's Blur in all the press advertising last year). Used at massive sizes on A1 posters Infinity creates some interesting shapes and does the job. Pleased to hear that the local language got catered for at the outset.
31 Oct 2005 — 7:22am
If you like the Kubrick style of 2001 try Futura or Univers.
--astype.de--
31 Oct 2005 — 7:42am
House has a Space collection.
hhp
31 Oct 2005 — 7:57am
It would be hard to imagine something cooler and more apropos than Village's Infinity, by chester and Rick Valicenti.
31 Oct 2005 — 8:01am
I did look at that one mark, the caps version is really nice, its on my list of potentials...
31 Oct 2005 — 8:10am
completely irrelevent to hwat is being discussed but can someone tell me how we now create font in the twenty first century? Any help would REALLY be appreciated I can not find anything anywhere!
31 Oct 2005 — 8:14am
I think Locator Display says "space".
31 Oct 2005 — 8:32am
Wow, so Janani, how does time-travel actually feel? In this age, we use
what we call "programmes" which operate on "computing machines". ;-)
(I think there must me more to your question,
but it's not possible to tell what from your post. :-)
hhp
31 Oct 2005 — 8:35am
thanks hrant for the sarcastically helpful reply but when you have a pedantic teacher for whom the phrase computer machines doesn't suffice you have to dig that little deeper. I'm doing a graphics design course and typography is the first module. I'm not partiularly enjoying it but it's better than most things. thanks any way!
31 Oct 2005 — 8:35am
thanks hrant for the sarcastically helpful reply but when you have a pedantic teacher for whom the phrase computer machines doesn't suffice you have to dig that little deeper. I'm doing a graphics design course and typography is the first module. I'm not partiularly enjoying it but it's better than most things. thanks any way!
31 Oct 2005 — 8:44am
(So I should have used even more smileys?)
OK, so you have a teacher who wants you to describe how fonts are made these days? I guess that's an interesting question. How much detail? Oh, and please start a new thread!
hhp
31 Oct 2005 — 9:00am
Modern:
FF Max
Neo Tech
Retro:
Horizon
Pasadena
31 Oct 2005 — 9:14am
You can use every classic (everyday) typeface since most stylish, "modern" typefaces will look odd in the future. A sans would work too, if it reflects classic proportions.
Example: The futuristic TRON logo typeface looks really like 80ths today.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084827/
--astype.de--
31 Oct 2005 — 9:31am
Font Bureau's Clicker has been expanded to super-family status. Maybe you might take a peek there too.
31 Oct 2005 — 10:02am
that's a good point, andreas. I was thinking of looking into some bitmap-type faces, dotted ones. Kind of like this one, but less cheesy.
bm pinhole
31 Oct 2005 — 10:06am
just don't use Bank Gothic!
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nc
31 Oct 2005 — 10:17am
But should the book look timeless? Would the movie TRON look up-to-date even if it's type was more timeless? (I don't think so)
Perhaps elsac should tell us more about the life-span of the book.
Kubrick's choice (Futura) would be a timeless alternative, or perhaps Avenir.
31 Oct 2005 — 10:24am
http://www.myfonts.com/search?search%5Btext%5D=rian+hughes
Cyberdelic, Xenotype, Telstar, Straker, Monitor, Drexler, Westway, Terrazzo, Telecast, Substation, Stadia, Space Cadet, Silesia, Range, Mastertext, Lusta.
Tim
31 Oct 2005 — 10:25am
The book won't be timeless, but I do think it's a good point that using anything too kitchy would get dated very quickly. I'm designing this book to be removed from it's original 1960s context. More modern, but not too trendy.
Futura and avenir are classic, but not really the direction I'm hoping for. More technological I guess?
Where would we say space travel is today?
I'm still very open to suggestions.
31 Oct 2005 — 10:32am
TRON looks like TRON and I like the 3Dline & flat shading. I dont know the sujet of "man & space", but if I have to choose between a doted face and futura the decision is easy.
--astype.de--
31 Oct 2005 — 10:46am
elsac - Do any of the above suggestions get close to what you're seeking? That will help us hone in.
31 Oct 2005 — 10:58am
infinity is the closest to what im looking for
http://vllg.com/Thirstype/Infinity/mudTyper+Weights/
31 Oct 2005 — 11:14am
Similar lines, but more humanist: Klavika
31 Oct 2005 — 11:17am
* Shameless Self Promotion.: 'formlos PlayR'.. :)
( I know, I know.. Even I dont really like promoting my types that way, but maybe you still like it.. :)
Dav, formlos
31 Oct 2005 — 11:18am
thankk you tim and everybody else though I can see I have a new nemsis!
31 Oct 2005 — 1:40pm
Dav, feel no shame. PlayR is spacealicious. Also, FF Alega.
31 Oct 2005 — 2:34pm
Elsa,
thanks for thinking about Infinity. Much to my surprise, it has stood up pretty well in the years since it was published. If you'd like to contact me off-list at chester@vllg.com I can set you up with a trial font.
Best, c
1 Nov 2005 — 8:23pm
I was going to suggest (in ascending order of retro) Letraset's Data 70, Countdown or BT Amelia. Now there's also Element or Union or Epps Evans, and Fontfont have a mass of bitmap faces, but hey - "to infinity and beyond!"
Nothing personal, Chester, it's just that where I work Infinity is the corporate brand typeface, for reasons best known to our advertisers (maybe they wanted to join the space race too?). They have saddled us with a corporate template that allows for 12pt Infinity ST Medium to be force justified with no hyphenation over a 79mm line length with only 2pts of leading. Because Infinity sets pretty wide (as the name suggests?) and the university uses a lot of long words that don't break, it is all too easy to figure that a good face can be used very badly indeed.
I hope it's treated much better in the the 'man and space' book elsac is working on... after all, it'll be used for display right?
Incidentally Chester did you have anything to do with Infinity Maori or is that just a local variant?
2 Nov 2005 — 10:15am
Klavika has been stuck in my eye for a while.
Morgan has many options, and might work for SPACE.
http://www.vllg.com/Feliciano/Morgan/mudTyper+Weights/
2 Nov 2005 — 10:34am
Hi Ben. I'm sorry to hear that Infinity is giving you issues at work. And, yes I created the Maori version of the fonts for the University. I proposed doing so, as I knew that the face did not support the language, being old school ISO 8859-1 format.
2 Nov 2005 — 9:18pm
Kia ora Chester. It's not the font, just the way they insist on using it so badly that is my gripe (they also did this with with Brody's Blur in all the press advertising last year). Used at massive sizes on A1 posters Infinity creates some interesting shapes and does the job. Pleased to hear that the local language got catered for at the outset.
2 Nov 2005 — 9:27pm
Ray Larabie has lots of good stuff, including the very authentic:
http://www.typodermic.com/fonts/14.html
3 Nov 2005 — 2:24am
Linotype has a smal Science Fiction Value Pack.
6 Nov 2005 — 6:02am
Trajan with shiny bits.
6 Nov 2005 — 6:11am
"Trajan with shiny bits."
LOL!!! Someone should write a column about that :-)
ChrisL
6 Nov 2005 — 1:18pm
Mmmmm...
Space Trajan Pro. .. ?
6 Nov 2005 — 1:54pm
I think you are all having difficulty separating a contemporary concept of space, from the "Post-retro-futurism" aspect of space.
James
6 Nov 2005 — 6:15pm
> contemporary concept of space
You mean like "I'm so sorry, it's not you, it's me - I need my space..."? :-)
hhp
6 Nov 2005 — 7:29pm
or maybe as in Cadet :-)
ChrisL
7 Nov 2005 — 6:08pm
and from Storm:
zepplin
or elektra
maybe even Staromat
7 Nov 2005 — 8:37pm
This was posted on SpeakUp today - Space 1999 signage and other graphics http://www.space1999.net/~eagle/graphics.html