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28 Sep 2003 — 11:09pm
28 Sep 2003 — 11:09pm
what was the best of Vancouver AtypI?
1. best talk ?
2. worst thing ?
3. best dancer ?
4. best dresser ?
5. most ironic ?
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28 Sep 2003 — 11:12pm
1. best talk... Kevin Larson
2. worst thing... the red wine
3. best dancer.. mike 'you know who you are' and Thomas Phinney.
4. best dresser.. Clive Bruton at gala.
5. most ironic. Comic Sans on the lunch bags. hahaaha.
29 Sep 2003 — 7:21am
For me AtpyI was a big disapointment. Mainly because I couldn't be there. Where is it next year? -R
29 Sep 2003 — 8:01am
Prague - second only to Barcelona on my [nebulous] list of best cities of the world.
Not to miss.
hhp
29 Sep 2003 — 8:41am
Prague
Can't bloody wait. I went on my honeymoon there.
Mathew
29 Sep 2003 — 3:47pm
I rather enjoyed Gerry Leonidas' talk, John Hudson's new Hebrew face, Gerald Cinamon's Koch slides (lots of stuff not in the book), the House of Downer demo, everything really. I only regret not being able to be in three places at once for some of those presentations. I really wanted to see more. That's probably the best complaint they can get.
The food, well... I guess I understand now why I've never heard of one going out to a Canadian restaurant. I preferred Leipzig. If I weren't allergic to seafood, I might have enjoyed the food more.
So now that it's Monday, check out the announcement from Adobe.
29 Sep 2003 — 5:39pm
1. best talk ? Shelley's talk on Beatrice Warde
2. worst thing ? spicy sushi, I can still taste it!
3. best dancer ? Dyana, of course
4. best dresser ? Jean-Claude, I loved the orange jacket
5. most ironic ? Powerpoint presentations with terrible typography
30 Sep 2003 — 9:09am
Jim. You are so right about the red wine. Apologies to everyone I offended that night.
2. No mounties.
3. Gary Munch.
4. Gerard Unger's purple sweater.
5. I second the Powerpoint presentations. The kerning! Or lack thereof. My eyes!
30 Sep 2003 — 11:53am
I hate to start w/ a negative, but the worst thing for me at the conference were the name tags! I found them difficult to read further than 2-3 feet away. I'm naturally shy and intimidated by crowds, and I find it very difficult to walk up to people and say: "Hi! Who are you?" I would have liked to have met more people from the on-line forums ... oh, well. Next time.
For me, the best talk was the Kevin Larson/Gerald Unger combination re: Word Recognition & Legibility. Lots of good information, I'm just sorry hhp wasn't there to cross swords w/ Kevin :o) I also thought the font business series was good.
Vancouver is beautiful, and the weather was fantastic. It was very difficult to stay indoors; more than once I was tempted to steal a sailboat, head West & keep on going.
30 Sep 2003 — 12:02pm
1. best talk ? Unger on reading.
2. worst thing ? Deciding not to go for broke on the volume of French Revolution newspapers in the auction.
3. best dancer ? Ms Weissman, of course.
4. best dresser ? Nothing of note.
5. most ironic ? Well, more of a coincidence, actually. Over sushi with Cyrus, I was complaining (as is my wont) of the stale state of typography in mass market magazines available at airports, but mentioned that there was one exception, but I couldn't remember the magazine name or identify the headline font, so I drew him a couple of characters. "Oh, was that Natural Health?" says Cyrus, "That's the first issue and a new face I just designed."
6. Best quote? "The choice of type is based on reputation and trends, rather than any kind of logic." - Roger Black
30 Sep 2003 — 1:07pm
> I now know what I want to do for my PhD.
What?
hhp
30 Sep 2003 — 10:06pm
I had a fantastic time, save missing my return flight by 24 hours (long story).
1. best talk: Erik Spiekermann's talk on friday as it shed the most light on some pressing issues for me at school. Thanks!
2. worst thing: The internet connection in the lab.
3. best dancer: Definitely not myself!
4. best dresser: Tony "Badoni"
1 Oct 2003 — 7:10am
2. worst: the red wine was disgusting at the 'welcome' keynote and I stayed away from it at the 'gala' went with 'white' wine.. The red was so sickening I left the first full glass at the 'welcome'. I'm use to Spanish Rioja Reserve which is great.
6: best quote: Nadine Chahine: 'this is the Arab equivalent of Comic Sans... but worse'.
or 'you know who you are's wife': 'next year I'll give a higher bid for him to keep his clothes on'. overheard at the Auction where John Downer wore a robe to promote the Underware sauna book.
2 Oct 2003 — 4:10am
7. Most over used word: 'Wonky' used by Thomas Phinney, David Lemon and Paul Nelson. Must be the new west-coast American jargon word like 'vanilla' or 'savvy'.
2 Oct 2003 — 1:58pm
Actually, I totally forgot Thomas Milo's presentation on Arabic shaping. Definitely the best talk of the weekend. His slideshow was good quality too. I hope I can find more info about his work online somewhere. I can't seem to find a site for Decotype.
2 Oct 2003 — 3:58pm
I don't think Tom's site is up yet. Here's his contact info...
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/links/vendor.asp?VID=DT
3 Oct 2003 — 1:38am
The best experience was to rent the Scully X-Files flat with a bunch of friends! We've learned that when we arrived only.
http://www.x-tour.com/agentscullysum.html
So, the party we've organized out there was called the T-Files party.
5 Oct 2003 — 5:14pm
1. best talk: Shelley Gruendler on Warde, and Larson on reading
2. worst thing: the lack of a pocket-size version of the program
3. best dancer: Dyana Weissman
5. most ironic: I hereby apologize for using PowerPoint. The lack of kerning is the thing that drives me nuts. Next year, InDesign all the way!
I wasn't aware that I used "wonky" very often. Hmmm. Must have snuck up on me somehow. Maybe it's a secret west coast thing?
Cheers,
T
6 Oct 2003 — 8:15am
Has anyone tried Keynote (Apple's answer to PowerPoint)? Are the typography controls any better?
6 Oct 2003 — 1:34pm
Keynote: I don't know all the capabilities, but at least it supports kerning.
PowerPoint vs. Acrobat: Even when I create presentations in PowerPoint, I still show them from Acrobat. I like the text spacing and rendering better that way. But that still doesn't get me kerning.
T
6 Oct 2003 — 2:50pm
Can you make individual PDF pages and import them into Powerpoint as graphics? I usually do my presentations in Acrobat, as described by Joseph, but there are a number of functions in Powerpoint that I prefer, such as the nice fade between slides, the ability to animate elements, etc.
6 Oct 2003 — 3:48pm
PowerPoint is actually a great program to write and put together a presentation as a structured document. It's how people use it that makes it a bad thing. The slide sorter view is really good, as well as the outline mode. InDesign doesn't compare when it comes to this. Try organizing your pages in the pages palette. It's a nightmere.
Though I still do my presentations in InDesign and present in Acrobat. That's what I did for mine at ATypI. Can't do without the typographic sophistication. No kerning? Forget it! I'm tempted to try Keynote. Would any of you recomment it? I've noticed a few presenters used Keynote. I love the cinematic cross-dissolve!
6 Oct 2003 — 4:13pm
John:
I don't think PowerPoint can take PDF as an import format. However, if you have Acrobat 6 Pro, you can export PDF from PowerPoint and have it even map transitions to their closest PDF equivalents. I haven't played with this much, since I think fancy transitions are often a distraction, so I can't say how well it works.
Keith:
I agree wholeheartedly that PowerPoint is great for managing structured presentations. That's why I still use it even though the typography sucks so badly. However, when time allows I do the initial version in PowerPoint and then redo it all in InDesign when I'm done....
T
7 Oct 2003 — 8:18am
I do my presentation in Acrobat too for couple of year and very happy with result, and more fun when you move to the next page via a BlueTooth phone, hehe.
But yes, a template sometime can be good.
7 Oct 2003 — 8:29am
Has this made the rounds already?
http://www.norvig.com/Gettysburg/
Apologies if it has...
16 Oct 2003 — 7:36pm
(This is my first post in Typophile, wow! Hello, everybody!)
1. best talk ?
Shelly Gruendler.
2. worst thing ?
My failure to be ubiquitous. Too many good things at the same time.
5. most ironic ?
Hrant
16 Oct 2003 — 7:42pm
Jorge is finally here.
25 Oct 2003 — 12:51pm
A month later, and look how the weather has deteriorated:
http://www.katkam.ca/
{sigh}
25 Oct 2003 — 1:26pm
To be fair, it was pissing with rain most of this week, and we've had major flooding in the mountains around Vancouver, with bridges washed out, lives lost, homes destroyed, etc. But yes, today the sun is shining and I'm about to leave my computer and go to a certain cafe that many ATypI attendees agree serves the best coffee.
27 Oct 2003 — 9:10am
John --
Sorry to hear about the floods, hope you weren't personally affected. I'd heard about the flooding in Washington State, failed to extrapolate. (Parochial? The U.S. media? Naaaah, couldn't be...)
Geez, first fires, then floods ... is BC expecting a plague of locusts next Spring? :0)
29 Sep 2003 — 3:40pm
"2. worst thing . . . the red wine"
Most people think that red wine becomes better the older it gets, when, actually it tastes better the more you drink.
Jim Rimmer
30 Sep 2003 — 2:01am
5. most ironic ? Powerpoint presentations with terrible typography
No, that can't be true!? There were? Argh...
30 Sep 2003 — 11:05am
1. best talk(s) -- Anthony Cahalan's, because I now know what I want to do for my PhD.
2. worst thing -- No card games.
3. best dancer -- Dyana.
4. best dresser -- Prof. Erik Spiekermann. I loved his boots.
5. most ironic -- I'd agree with the Powerpoint problems.
What about:
6. Best blurb or quote from someone?
2 Oct 2003 — 1:33pm
Vinnie wrote:
"7. Most over used word: 'Wonky' used by Thomas Phinney, David Lemon and Paul Nelson."
I'm pretty sure I have never used that word; certainly not to excess. But I agree that Thomas seems fond of it.
5 Oct 2003 — 10:37am
The highest point in the ATypI conference in Vancouver was in having all those type luminaries in my home town.
Taking Dan Carr and paul Razell to the Ho Sun Hing Printing Co, type foundry for a tour and demo of Chinese type casting was also a pleasure.
It was not easy to get Fontlab information from the young men doing the digital work on the typeface during John Downer's Font Sprint, but I realize they were busy trying to drain the swamp. (Fontlab does look like a hell of a program)
John Downer's signwriting ability just floored me. Such a talent! And very nice guy as well.
And to top it off, I always enjoy hanging around the False Creek waterway.
The disappointing part is that I managed to meet very few type designers, and would have liked to have had the time to get peole to visit my own metal foundry.
All in all, I had a nice time, and wasn't completely put off the conference on by the doubtful quality of the red wine.
Jim Rimmer
6 Oct 2003 — 1:11pm
Re: ATypI
I'm sorry I missed it. My trip to Mexico was definitely
worthwhile though. (I'll post some found type later.)
Re: Powerpoint
Acrobat Reader has a "presentation mode." The
PDF goes full screen and you use arrow keys to go forward
and back through the pages. It's gotta be Adobe's best kept
secret. Nothing like going from InDesign to presentation
sans PowerPoint.
12 Oct 2003 — 4:30pm
I do use Keynote for all my presentations, client and public.
The great thing is, you can prepare your stuff in Illustrator or InDesign, it reads PDFs and EPS files without choking! Normally I'd do all the stuff directly in Keynote which works well. And to the Kern Monkey: The text looks good! Open your eyes again this ain't no Microsoft!
If I run around during a presentation it'll either be my mobile phone or a rc-remote.
Did this help anyone? I still have to figure out how to join this... Hey guys, what money? Help me to join!