Roman Vs. Italic

Eric_West
16.Jun.2005 12.48pm
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Recently, after learning of the roots of italic, I have been paying more attention to them and how it seems that majiscules in Italic sets never really seem to fit. The more I look at them, the uppercase is basically just angled. I realize they have been redrawn for the set, but does anyone else sense that disconnect between the upper and lowercase in Italic sets ?



Norbert Florendo
16.Jun.2005 1.11pm
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Historically the caps were actually upright romans.
Look at samples of Arrighi’s specimen of italics.

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hrant
16.Jun.2005 1.21pm
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Eric, yes! And the disconnect is actually an amplification of the disconnect between lc and UC in basic Roman! A “solution” I myself have used in italic caps: semi-serifs (see Patria).

But deeper and more drastic solution would be to delve into uncials...

hhp


Eric_West
16.Jun.2005 4.36pm
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As I pondered my question after I posted today, would a Script-esque Uppercase, more condensed, obviously specifically drawn for the lc italics be a solution. I’m going to do some experiments.


Norbert Florendo
16.Jun.2005 5.40pm
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Eric, for Arrighi’s calligraphy his caps were quite different (and beautiful) than the roman used for italic type and might give you at least a historic reference.

Sample pages from Arrighi’s Operina, c. 1522 (published 1524)
http://www.acmedigital.net/jiansabu/arrighi.htm

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Chris Keegan
17.Jun.2005 6.43am
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Norbert, that sample is amazing. Has anyone attempted a digital interpretation of Arrighi’s calligraphy? Looks like a prime candidate to me...


gabrielhl
17.Jun.2005 6.50am
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A digital version of Arrighi’s calligraphy with auto ligatures like in Underware’s Bello would be soooooooo nice. With that and Zapfino, pens are in for extinction!


paul d hunt
17.Jun.2005 7.19am
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I believe James Grieshaber may be working on an OT version of Operina. If it’s anything like Cezanne Pro, then expect very cool OT features.


Miss Tiffany
17.Jun.2005 12.56pm
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I was just about to suggest Operina from P22, when I scrolled a little further and voila, Paul had already done it.

Operina Opentype??? Please don’t tease, Paul!