Ouch!!!

This is going to hurt! :-D

(Decides to stay clear from General Discussions for the foreseeable future).

Don’t forget “free, bundled font”.

“Those Armenians are so damn aggressive and bellicose,
why can’t they be nice like the Israelis?”

Tellingly, there are of course only two countries on this
earth where you could actually get away with saying that.

hhp

Can someone name this typeface from only one letter—and I need the answer REALLY fast!

ChrisL

My favorites are what is the typeface of the (blank) logo or sports team. Multimillion corporations using off the rack typefaces for their idenity, yeah right.

I just had to share this “Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde uinervtisy...

“Blackletter is only of historical interest or for Nazis.”

“Berthold’s approach to protecting their intellectual property is reasonable.”

“With a little makeready, digital photopolymer can easily match the quality and craftsmanship of any letterpress printer.”

“Goudy is the greatest type designer in history.”

What, he isn’t? :-D

A popular one in the Type Identification Board: “Can you name a free font similar to...”

I know I know I couldn’t help myself. I feared this would turn into something nasty but it didn’t.

Is there going to be a TypeCon this year?

Apparently, “I like Futura”.

feck off you arses... you know nothing about designing solutions for others.

Ascender’s Most Popular

“Whatchamacallit, Cyrillic ? Cool... Okay, this is what you do: ...”

Disclaimer:
Those were **jokes** folks.
I don’t agree with either them or their opposites.
They were supposed to be a finely tuned mix
of idiocy and typophile-incorrectness.
I like everyone else’s also. More, please!

“To make an italic, I just apply a 15° slant to everything, right?”

“It’s so easy to make a typeface, all you have to do is draw half the characters and then flip them: w for m; d for b, p and q; t for j; 6 for 9. See? Easy.”

“I just downloaded a whole font that looks like the Metallica logo. Woohoo!”

“Man, I just came back from Germany, they sell the best bringhursts with sauerkraut I have ever tasted. Better than any ballpark.”

“Jonathan Cranbrook is a great type designer”

“And that Tobias Hoefler, great guy!”

“Doesn’t Hrant have anything else to do?”

Thank you folks, I’ll be here all week!

A nice typeface is like a beautiful woman, curvy in all the right places. - me

“I think I know enough about type”

“I’m in a contest, so please, ¿Could you guys identify this font for me?”

“Who wants to exchange fonts?”

“I just found this amazing site where you can download totally free fonts like Mostra, Manticore, Panoptica and even some weird stuff called Maral”

“Legibility”

Héctor

> “Legibility”

Now that’s funny.

hhp

reading speed is even funnier. ;^D

and i think most things that i say on typophile could be on the “what not to say” list.

I’m going to -insert name of major city-, and I’d like you to suggest some interesting type related things for me to do while I’m there.

Go to the second alley off of Main street and
rummage in the dumpsters for some found type.

hhp

“ITC Garamond really is the best of all the Garamond revivals.”

“Why can’t you stick to the fonts that came with the computer?”

“Can you suggest a font I could use for a document I’m preparing? It needs to be finished tomorrow. Thanks!”

“What’s wrong with letterspacing blackletter? I do it all the time.”

s’marks

“Did anyone notice that I stretched this font 30 percent?”
“Am I the only one who stares at my menu like a crazy person?”
“Is Trajan that font used on all those movie posters?”
“There’s no need for any new fonts.”
“Anyone know the designer of the Papa Roach font?”
:)

bj

“Why is Arial not called Helvetica?”

“I got this font from a friend and I want to know what free software I can get to automatically make a whole family out of it?”

ChrisL

“Why is ’don’t look like crap’ in my post now?”

“Bundled fonts are great!”

“I didn’t get my membership! I’ve waited MONTHS! I want my money back. I hate all of you!”

“Man, I love the new typefaces Microsoft comissioned.”

“So, do is the Mac better than the PC for fonts? What about Quark and InDesign?”

this is turning into a FAQs thread now...

I’ve made a decent income by choosing type design.

How about this - “I love Comic Sans”

Chris, I gave that one above, and Vincent Connare rather understandably did not appreciate the humor. It *will* lead to the Nth time this has been rehashed and has got very tired even for those who of us who are not Vince.

But for the record I do think Comic Sans can look great in the right setting. I saw a wonderful use of it, and will take a picture and post it later in another thread.

Nice try, William... :-D

“We already talked about this upthread/in a different thread/on Alpha Centauri.”

>Nice try, William…

“Oh ye of little faith.” (I won’t be in that city for another few weeks...)

Sorry William, must have missed that one. I figured it had been beaten to death already, but was the best I could come up with :)

“If I can’t post anonymously and insult people then I’m taking my toys and going home.”

Glad that’s over with.

For the sake of completeness,

‘4. Do not misspell “Typophile”.’

“who needs accents anyways ?”

“can you send me your new font so i can test it ?”

“i never use serifs”

“David Carson invented post-modernism”

“Can you send me your new font so I can test it ?”

Hey, there’s nothing wrong with that!?

Some of my favourite sayings (heard in my classroom) include:

What’s a tick mark again?
I think I need an Old School typeface.
I didn’t distort the type. I just expanded it a bit.
I WANT THIS TO STAND OUT SO I SET THE PARAGRAPH ALL IN UPPERCASE. THAT’S ALRIGHT, ISN’T IT?
What size is the best size to set type at?
I underlined this bit of type to emphasize it.

(This is fun!)

How about “I’m graduating from design school and need to write a paper. What should I write about? The paper is due tomorrow.”

Bring back the old Typophile!

“I love Apple”
“I think the Ipod is better than an Epson P-200 “
” Windows users rule and are smarter than dumb designers “
“Linux rocks”
“Intel inside”
“George Bush deserves a doctorate in English”
“I hate Comic Sans and I want to make some money saying that”
“my wife hates Comic Sans and doesn’t do quilt making

Pass the houmous, please!

How about: “Enjoy your successful career and revel in the fact that you’ve created something that sparks fiery debate.”

“I’ll get rich quick with type, right?”

Who makes money saying he/she hates Comic Sans? Sounds like a good scam. :-)

Oh, and Sergej, you sound like a broken old record, repeating yourself endlessly...

i think he realises that and that’s why he posted that statement in this thread. ;^)

“i think he realises that and that’s why he posted that statement in this thread. ;^)”

I think Paul is right. Sergei made a funny—laughing at ones self is a healthy sign. Good one Sergei!

ChrisL

Perhaps we need a thread on the top ten things “to say” on TP if you want to be taken seriously. I’ll start you off...

“Mac OS 8 is so much a better platform for font design than Tiger”

Si

I got one:

“Is Neville Brody gonna be at that conference?”

“Is it true helvetica is a look-alike of arial, or is that just an akzidenz?”

———————————————————
Yes, I’m old, but I’m back in style!

”... or is that just an akzidenz?””

That is a grotesque statement :-)

ChrisL

Actually, Brody was at the Thessaloniki conference of 2004, and I ended up liking him, which I didn’t expect to.

hhp

Neville is a very friendly, really, zero bullshit superstar attitude. I liked him a lot when I still was at FontShop. It’s not that I don’t like him now, I just that haven’t seen him in ages.

Still with the Things Not To Say:

“No offense to the person who designed it with Solex, but if I was your art director I hadn’t let it out…”

Carson was the no-show at Thessa. I wonder if Klimis ever got his money back?

Si

From the airline? Right.

I’d actually like to “tell all” concerning what happened (at least the version I heard), but do you think I’d risk a libel suit or something? BTW, something sort of similar happened with Ken Garland at the Beirut conference. People, beware celebrity! Go for content instead, please.

hhp

For those that were not there, basically at the beginning of the conference the organizer announced that due to illness David Carson had to cancel – news greeted with groans from the many students in attendance.

The organizer expressed his disappointment and commented that for the cost of flights and expenses they could have had paid for an additional 20 to 30 Greek presenters, and that they‘d try to reclaim the money somehow – I expect they meant from the airline for the unused tickets, but I had visions of them turning up on Carson’s doorstep ;-)

Anyway Carson’s talk was replaced with an excellent informal Q&A session with Erik and Neville.

I’m sure there’s a more elaborate back-story to the episode, but I guess we’ll have to buy Hrant a pint in New York or Helsinki to hear it.

“Go for the content and the food”

Cheers, Si

Well, at first the flight was rescheduled due to a [presumed] doctor’s appointment; because of the short notice, only first class was available; but then it was a plain no show... Total waste: $8000.

In the Garland case there was the context of recent political/security instability, but in the end that seemed like a scapegoat.

hhp

Chris Keegan’s idea started this thread, but I think from the reaction here I can declare a clear winner of the “#1 Thing Not To Say on Typophile”:

“I love Comic Sans.”

For those who want the full story, see the interview of Vincent Connare on Snog Blog.

It includes this memorable quote from Vincent Connare:

“If you love it, you don’t know much about typography and if you hate it you really don’t know much about typography either and you should get another hobby.”

“When will registration be availabe on the TypeCon site?”

Well, at first the flight was rescheduled due to a [presumed] doctor’s appointment; because of the short notice, only first class was available; but then it was a plain no show… Total waste: $8000.
In the Garland case there was the context of recent political/security instability, but in the end that seemed like a scapegoat.

Hrant, you insider!

Aaaanyway. Just for the record, Ken had an Israeli entry stamp on his passport, which precluded his entering Lebanon. Unfortunately speakers were told about this quite late, so there was no time for him to get a new one issued. So we can put the ’political instability scapegoat’ theory to rest, then.

If I manage to get the dirt in Greece, just guess at the potential in my home town! :-)

It’s true people should have been told earlier about that restriction. But everybody -not least the British embassy- went out of their way to get him a second passport that he could have used just for that trip, with time to spare. So I think it wasn’t kosher.

Back when US citizens were forbidden to travel to Lebanon, the Lebanese embassy would give people visas on a piece of paper that you’d tuck away. Us Lebanese can always find a back door... not unlike you Greeks! :-) Hmmm, so maybe Klimis had luck with the airline after all.

hhp

““When will registration be availabe on the TypeCon site?””

Speaking of that, I just noticed that TYPECON REGISTRATION IS AVAILABLE!!!

Bravo Tiffany!, you have prevailed over all the slings and arrows :-)

ChrisL

I just registered for TypeCon. I wonder if I was the first to register? Tiff?

ChrisL

I am simply the messenger. Tamye is the one who is prevailing over the slings and arrows. =^D I don’t know if you were the first, Chris, you probably didn’t beat me! ;^D

”... I don’t know if you were the first, Chris, you probably didn’t beat me! ;^D”

Damn insider, beaten again :-)

ChrisL

On the thread topic:

“I’m a student, so it’s ok for me to use unlicensed type.”

please remember to close your html tags.

“I’ve been developing a completely revolutionary font technology, but I can’t really talk about it now for patent reasons.”

“We all need to thank the American capitalism for
creating computer type design. God bless George Bush.”

Yup, we sure do! Think of how many great artistic fonts could be made without the dreaded “MARKET.” Hey! BACK IN THE USSR! That was such a great place, and they didn’t even believe in God! Hey let us throw in some Antisemitism too! Diversity! Woo Hoo!

Hey you, whoever you may be, American capitalism has brought us all this wonderful technology that we as type and font lovers use each day, and without this most everyone here would not be even close to Brooklyn (Linotype). You would also probably still be on a paste-up board, if you were lucky.

Brighten your attitude and have a little apreciation for a culture that is different from your utopia.

Rodi

The Truth shall set you free

> Brighten your attitude

Try telling that to the sweat shop workers who enable you to drive SUVs, while conveniently ignoring that the 20th century was the worst in human history, and the 21st is looking much, much worse already. Instead of worrying about past anti-Semitic name-calling, worry about actual genocides which go conveniently ignored, and wars of intolerance carried out by so-called “civilized”, democratic nations.

Good type exsits largely in spite of Capitalism, Communism, or any other system. Like Eric Gill explains in “Essay on Typography”, people -at least some people- have a desire to create quality no matter how much the system wants to coerce them to become cogs in the machine.

Bashing the USSR - how provincial and petty. At least the people living in the USSR knew there was a problem; the brainwashed peons on this side of the Atlantic think everything is just peachy! Little do they realize that the reduction from two superpowers to one opened the doors to a quantum leap in the usurping of mankind, to make the rich richer. Capitalism (not the same thing as Materialism, which is fully half of the human reality) is anti-culture, anti-type, anti-human. The cute little technological side-benefits (like better font formats) do not even dent the large-scale destruction being wrought on our Earth. Look up from your electronic gadgets long enough to observe what’s really going on.

hhp

Groan

As I said, it was not 100% true or false, but finely tuned to infuriate.

Are you guys going to make me explain the joke?

I think some people would rather buff the neo-classical columns adorning daddy’s Connecticut mansion(s). Those columns, however, are distinctly hollow.

And you, William, should see the contradiction in your position. Ask yourself why a bigoted tyrant would be so obsessed with forcing Democracy down everybody’s throat.

hhp

“I love Rotis. I think it is good type design”

Hey Hrant, I didn’t know you were such a pessimist!

“Let them eat cake”

ChrisL

Sergej, Realism and Hope are not incompatible.

hhp

I think that “I love Comic Sans” has been displaced from its #1 position on the list of Things Not To Say On Typophile.

s’marks

“bubble letters”

S’marks, that’s perfect... the debate over politics/world views is much more heated than any Comic Sans discussion will ever get.

what about using “quotes” for emphasis of “things” like “sales?” that’s perfectly fine, right? and type on a path is cool. especially if it’s marker felt or arial.

Here’s my contribution:

- Apostrophe was framed!

- Where’s my t-shirt? I signed up 10 minutes ago.

- (any reference to Berthold)

I would think that “I love Chalkboard” would be more toxic than “I love Comic Sans”...