I didn't miss them. I saw them at The Palace in Hollywood with about 800 other folks back in the day. They ended up their set with 20 or so minutes of "noise". It was wonderful. Shoegazing at it's best.
Please do, Nina. And try again if you don't get it at first listen. They use(d) grotesque amounts of distortion, and the mix is seemingly impenetrable. If you don't give up, you'll be richly rewarded. (That's a promise from a classically trained musician, who doesn't really care about rock music, except when it's bloody brilliant.)
The only thing worth listening to is "Loveless". (And the above-mentioned EPs.) Their first album, "Isn't Anything", is no good at all.
Paul, was that the July 5th, 1992 concert, their very last before the 2008 comeback? I'm envious. I saw (or rather heard) them in Oslo in the summer of 2008, and it sounded just like the records. Amazing!
Radiohead - In Rainbows
Tim Buckley - Starsailor
Portishead - Third
Massive Attack - Mezzannine
Bob Dylan - The Freewheelin
Jhonny Cash - The Best Of...
Regina Spektor - Far
Beirut - Gulag Orkestar
Sigur Rös - Med Sud I Eyrum Vid Spilum Endalaust (or something like that)
You're a man of taste in music, Gerardo (as far as I'm concerned). I've never heard of Beirut, but the title alone of that record sounds intriguing. Look nine posts up for the correct spelling of that great Sigur Rós album.
I believe it was their last LA show before they "retired". I work for a concert promoter and used to do house sound in LA clubs so I have seen a few shows in my time. My company did them last year at the Coachella festival, missed that one.
Whenever it was, it was very cool, and I am/was a terrible music snob.
Then you're in for a lot of treats. For people not used to classical music, I highly recommend the first item on my list. It's rather obscure (as most early Baroque music is), but one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever created, in my opinion. Read about it here.
My list this week: Dvorak – 9th Symphony, Cello Concerto Orff – Carmina Burana Maria Gadú – Maria Gadú Beirut – The Flying Club Cup Vítor Ramil – À beça, Tango Maria Bethânia – Various from '70s and '80s Smiths – Hatful of Hollow Jorge Drexler – 12 segundos de oscuridad Uakti – Amazon Rivers (from Philip Glass) Ekseption – First albums
and silence.
Some years ago I had a phase, in which I had consumed Nick Cave’s Let love in excessively. It was and is a holy album for me. I can recommend it not only because of the music, but also because of the sound quality. Later I bou… pirated in this case Silence is sexy from "Die Einstürzenden Neubauten". This album was very inspiring.
Since a few days I have cold. In the middle of a cold, I mean a few days after beginning of the cold, I always feel comfortably numb (like in Pink Floyd’s The Wall). And Amy Winehouse’s Frank is just the right thing for the middle of a cold on a slightly gray Good Friday. I just hover in her In My Bed.
I've recently rediscovered the song "Nkryptd" by Xripeen Wire, a Kenyan band. Strangely fitting for Good Friday. Shame there's virtually zero information on the internet about them.
heavy-metal Iron Maiden wannabe - some band with an appallingly bad vocalist without any hint of the inhibitions that would normally go with such a terrible voice. Not through any choice of my own. My son has a wide-ranging taste in music. Not all of it is good :o) .
After much complaining he's put on Aria, a Russian Heavy metal band.
I live in a rural environment on an island in one of the most biologically diverse places in North America. I walk in the woods or on the beaches almost every day. I listen with pleasure to the sounds that nature produces. And I have to say that a very large amount of the sounds produced by individual species of animals and birds are limited and repetetive. I think you would be hard pressed to find another species that produces anything like the range of sounds that humans make, or that orders those sounds in so many different ways.
You don’t seem to have a neighbor who is penetrating your wall with his drilling machine. The range of human sounds is wider, but the quality average is lower in comparison to the sounds that nature produces. But I agree with you. As impressive the sounds of nature are, they are not art.
Arno, yes, they are Design.
To me, far more beautiful and interesting.
John: when I listen to nature, more than hearing things I feel a depth that's qualitatively lacking in our compositions. That said, to be fair, and like Midnight Oil said, we're part of nature too. So it is our unrehearsed aural contribution that I value more.
The sound of nature is nothing. If you really want to hear something special drive out to the middle of the painted desert during January when all the tourists are staying indoors. There’s nothing quite like the sound of myriad acres of quiet.
There’s nothing quite like the sound of myriad acres of quiet.
I never was in the painted desert, but real silence is indeed something, that most citizens don’t know. Probably the painted desert is not totally silent, but quiet enough, only filled by noises, that point out the silence.
There are these mind-blowing salt water tanks. I have read the first time about them in a book by Stanisław Lem. The name of the story is the conditional reflex, as far as I remember. In the absence of stimuli you seem to loose orientation and your mind is filling the space, that normally is filled by the environment.
---------
Just now I am hearing Kaly. The name of the album is Electric Kool Aid.
Yes, floatation is quite amazing. Sensory deprivation. Done it quite a few times.
I've personally never heard nothing in the tank's total silence though. The nothingness can open doors. Some people fall asleep almost instantly, and very deeply, when deprived of sensory input; for many others, the mind (this beautiful thing) does fill the void, in different ways.
Lol, that does not look like the tank, in which Pirx was lying for so many hours (in my imagination – the story is absolute great as so many stories of Lem, although Lem has made a big logical mistake there). But thanks for the link!
Arno, I gave that link for background info about the principle of the isolation (or sensory deprivation) tank, which it sounds like Lem must have been talking about. The tanks come in different shapes and sizes; the ones I've used weren't shaped quite like the one in that image either, and yes they're certainly long enough to comfortably lie in them.
I totally agree with you. Have you ever tried gamma radiation? It’s cool. It is so mind-blowing, that you really get an impression, how precious life is. And you never will do anything after that experience, that hurts yourself or anybody else. You leave the radiation tank as a better human.
@ nina
Floating costs round about 77 Cent per minute in Cologne. How long does one have to float for blowing up his mind? I am not sure, if sixty minutes are enough.
It would be nice to have such a tank at home. But I just see, that a tank costs 15000 Euro at least.
This is, of course, a piece of music all about our relationship to nature (and the staging takes this relationship into even more complex layers of meaning, interpretation and feeling).
I don't think one needs to consider this or any other music ‘idiotic’ in order to fully express the wonder of the soundscape of the natural world.
Arno, yes it's not cheap; and it's also not guaranteed to «blow your mind», much less up. It takes time to get into. For a first-timer 60 minutes are plenty. You'd probably just fall asleep; not however if you keep worrying about your 77 cents per minute, which would presumably make the overall experience less enjoyable :-).
The tank is not a wonder drug of sorts; it's about relinquishing [conscious] control. That's what I mainly use it for; and deep relaxation.
BTW, some people listen to music in there, but in my view that's just diluting the experience.
11 Feb 2010 — 2:15pm
I didn't miss them. I saw them at The Palace in Hollywood with about 800 other folks back in the day. They ended up their set with 20 or so minutes of "noise". It was wonderful. Shoegazing at it's best.
pbc
11 Feb 2010 — 2:31pm
Thanks for the tip, will check them out. Sure sounds intriguing.
11 Feb 2010 — 2:46pm
Please do, Nina. And try again if you don't get it at first listen. They use(d) grotesque amounts of distortion, and the mix is seemingly impenetrable. If you don't give up, you'll be richly rewarded. (That's a promise from a classically trained musician, who doesn't really care about rock music, except when it's bloody brilliant.)
The only thing worth listening to is "Loveless". (And the above-mentioned EPs.) Their first album, "Isn't Anything", is no good at all.
Paul, was that the July 5th, 1992 concert, their very last before the 2008 comeback? I'm envious. I saw (or rather heard) them in Oslo in the summer of 2008, and it sounded just like the records. Amazing!
11 Feb 2010 — 2:48pm
This is my actual AIMP albums list:
Tim Buckley - Starsailor
Portishead - Third
Massive Attack - Mezzannine
Bob Dylan - The Freewheelin
Jhonny Cash - The Best Of...
Regina Spektor - Far
Beirut - Gulag Orkestar
Sigur Rös - Med Sud I Eyrum Vid Spilum Endalaust (or something like that)
11 Feb 2010 — 2:59pm
You're a man of taste in music, Gerardo (as far as I'm concerned). I've never heard of Beirut, but the title alone of that record sounds intriguing. Look nine posts up for the correct spelling of that great Sigur Rós album.
11 Feb 2010 — 3:13pm
You expect me to remember the date? :)
I believe it was their last LA show before they "retired". I work for a concert promoter and used to do house sound in LA clubs so I have seen a few shows in my time. My company did them last year at the Coachella festival, missed that one.
Whenever it was, it was very cool, and I am/was a terrible music snob.
pbc
11 Feb 2010 — 3:15pm
Wow, thanks! I've read your list and couldn't recongnize any of those artists. Except for Beethoven and My Bloody Valentine :P
You made me wanna listen to classical music!
11 Feb 2010 — 3:23pm
Then you're in for a lot of treats. For people not used to classical music, I highly recommend the first item on my list. It's rather obscure (as most early Baroque music is), but one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever created, in my opinion. Read about it here.
11 Feb 2010 — 7:14pm
My list this week:
Dvorak – 9th Symphony, Cello Concerto
Orff – Carmina Burana
Maria Gadú – Maria Gadú
Beirut – The Flying Club Cup
Vítor Ramil – À beça, Tango
Maria Bethânia – Various from '70s and '80s
Smiths – Hatful of Hollow
Jorge Drexler – 12 segundos de oscuridad
Uakti – Amazon Rivers (from Philip Glass)
Ekseption – First albums
and silence.
13 Feb 2010 — 5:54am
Jorge Drexler y sus 12 segundos de oscuridad... Muy bueno!
13 Feb 2010 — 6:46am
Holla Gerardo. Entre los cantantes latinos, me gustan muchísimo Drexler, Páez, Sosa y Viglietti. ¿Te gusta Vitor Ramil, el autor de 12 segundos?
14 Feb 2010 — 6:39pm
@Satyagraha
@nina
I've been listening to these recently:
My Last.FM page
14 Feb 2010 — 7:39pm
Is Sigur Rós a kind of musical Caslon between type designers?
:-)
(Just kidding, I like it too!)
20 Feb 2010 — 7:24am
@ewalthert This Sonic Waves is a great concept! I love the numerals and their 'italic' style.
25 Feb 2010 — 3:24pm
Rowland S. Howard: Pop Crimes
What a pity that it's his last album ...
He always was so much better than Nick Cave.
28 Feb 2010 — 3:18pm
Nouvelle Vague
28 Feb 2010 — 5:02pm
The Phoenix Foundation
Grizzly Bear
Miike Snow
Bon Iver
RRR live stream
Typeradio
28 Feb 2010 — 8:56pm
Brother Ali
Yo La Tengo
2 Apr 2010 — 11:03am
@ victor ivanov
Some years ago I had a phase, in which I had consumed Nick Cave’s Let love in excessively. It was and is a holy album for me. I can recommend it not only because of the music, but also because of the sound quality. Later I bou… pirated in this case Silence is sexy from "Die Einstürzenden Neubauten". This album was very inspiring.
Since a few days I have cold. In the middle of a cold, I mean a few days after beginning of the cold, I always feel comfortably numb (like in Pink Floyd’s The Wall). And Amy Winehouse’s Frank is just the right thing for the middle of a cold on a slightly gray Good Friday. I just hover in her In My Bed.
2 Apr 2010 — 12:17pm
Mass in Bb Minor
Russian State Symphony Capella
Prelude to the Ceremony of the Whirling Dervish
In honor of Good Friday.
pbc
2 Apr 2010 — 12:36pm
I've recently rediscovered the song "Nkryptd" by Xripeen Wire, a Kenyan band. Strangely fitting for Good Friday. Shame there's virtually zero information on the internet about them.
2 Apr 2010 — 11:20pm
I am listening to the endless menu-loop on Breaking Bad, and getting a little tired of it. Time to find the remote.
3 Apr 2010 — 7:30pm
Lots of baroque music, some of which I haven't listened to since the 1980s. Huge amounts of Handel, and joining in with gusto on ‘All we like sheep’.
11 Apr 2010 — 11:49am
Haydn, this record!
http://www.heidelberger-sinfoniker.de/das_orchester/cd_einspielungen/uns...
11 Apr 2010 — 11:54am
The birds outside.
11 Apr 2010 — 2:36pm
Indeed, nature's music makes ours seem idiotic.
hhp
19 Jul 2012 — 11:36am
...
11 Apr 2010 — 7:16pm
Pink Floyd
12 Apr 2010 — 1:05pm
Grobschnitt by Grobschnitt. Very lossy MP3. Terrible sound quality.
12 Apr 2010 — 1:11pm
>"Vincebus Eruptum" Blue Cheer.
Love it. Also saw them 3 times.
If you like that check out Alice Cooper's first album. Out of control psychedelia, they were actually making fun of the hippies.
pbc
12 Apr 2010 — 1:12pm
>Indeed, nature's music makes ours seem idiotic.
Cage knew this.
Nature's everything makes us seem idiotic.
pbc
19 Jul 2012 — 11:37am
...
12 Apr 2010 — 2:27pm
Lots of rockabilly.
12 Apr 2010 — 6:24pm
heavy-metal Iron Maiden wannabe - some band with an appallingly bad vocalist without any hint of the inhibitions that would normally go with such a terrible voice. Not through any choice of my own. My son has a wide-ranging taste in music. Not all of it is good :o) .
After much complaining he's put on Aria, a Russian Heavy metal band.
12 Apr 2010 — 9:11pm
Hrant: …nature's music makes ours seem idiotic.
I live in a rural environment on an island in one of the most biologically diverse places in North America. I walk in the woods or on the beaches almost every day. I listen with pleasure to the sounds that nature produces. And I have to say that a very large amount of the sounds produced by individual species of animals and birds are limited and repetetive. I think you would be hard pressed to find another species that produces anything like the range of sounds that humans make, or that orders those sounds in so many different ways.
13 Apr 2010 — 2:28am
@ John
You don’t seem to have a neighbor who is penetrating your wall with his drilling machine. The range of human sounds is wider, but the quality average is lower in comparison to the sounds that nature produces. But I agree with you. As impressive the sounds of nature are, they are not art.
13 Apr 2010 — 3:21am
"The Specials", and now I feel like dancing and getting away from the computer! :)
13 Apr 2010 — 6:52am
Arno, yes, they are Design.
To me, far more beautiful and interesting.
John: when I listen to nature, more than hearing things I feel a depth that's qualitatively lacking in our compositions. That said, to be fair, and like Midnight Oil said, we're part of nature too. So it is our unrehearsed aural contribution that I value more.
hhp
13 Apr 2010 — 6:55am
KASABIAN. <- (full stop)
13 Apr 2010 — 7:10am
The sound of nature is nothing. If you really want to hear something special drive out to the middle of the painted desert during January when all the tourists are staying indoors. There’s nothing quite like the sound of myriad acres of quiet.
13 Apr 2010 — 8:23am
Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros
13 Apr 2010 — 9:49am
There’s nothing quite like the sound of myriad acres of quiet.
I never was in the painted desert, but real silence is indeed something, that most citizens don’t know. Probably the painted desert is not totally silent, but quiet enough, only filled by noises, that point out the silence.
There are these mind-blowing salt water tanks. I have read the first time about them in a book by Stanisław Lem. The name of the story is the conditional reflex, as far as I remember. In the absence of stimuli you seem to loose orientation and your mind is filling the space, that normally is filled by the environment.
---------
Just now I am hearing Kaly. The name of the album is Electric Kool Aid.
13 Apr 2010 — 10:09am
"There are these mind-blowing salt water tanks"
Yes, floatation is quite amazing. Sensory deprivation. Done it quite a few times.
I've personally never heard nothing in the tank's total silence though. The nothingness can open doors. Some people fall asleep almost instantly, and very deeply, when deprived of sensory input; for many others, the mind (this beautiful thing) does fill the void, in different ways.
13 Apr 2010 — 10:18am
Also, non-audible (and non-visible) frequencies can affect us significantly.
hhp
13 Apr 2010 — 10:31am
@ nina
Lol, that does not look like the tank, in which Pirx was lying for so many hours (in my imagination – the story is absolute great as so many stories of Lem, although Lem has made a big logical mistake there). But thanks for the link!
13 Apr 2010 — 10:38am
Arno, I gave that link for background info about the principle of the isolation (or sensory deprivation) tank, which it sounds like Lem must have been talking about. The tanks come in different shapes and sizes; the ones I've used weren't shaped quite like the one in that image either, and yes they're certainly long enough to comfortably lie in them.
13 Apr 2010 — 11:10am
@ hrant
I totally agree with you. Have you ever tried gamma radiation? It’s cool. It is so mind-blowing, that you really get an impression, how precious life is. And you never will do anything after that experience, that hurts yourself or anybody else. You leave the radiation tank as a better human.
@ nina
Floating costs round about 77 Cent per minute in Cologne. How long does one have to float for blowing up his mind? I am not sure, if sixty minutes are enough.
It would be nice to have such a tank at home. But I just see, that a tank costs 15000 Euro at least.
13 Apr 2010 — 11:03am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyg0Ttx16uk
This is, of course, a piece of music all about our relationship to nature (and the staging takes this relationship into even more complex layers of meaning, interpretation and feeling).
I don't think one needs to consider this or any other music ‘idiotic’ in order to fully express the wonder of the soundscape of the natural world.
13 Apr 2010 — 11:13am
Arno, actually I get blasted with gamma every day.
Just in very small amounts. :-)
hhp
13 Apr 2010 — 11:27am
Arno, yes it's not cheap; and it's also not guaranteed to «blow your mind», much less up. It takes time to get into. For a first-timer 60 minutes are plenty. You'd probably just fall asleep; not however if you keep worrying about your 77 cents per minute, which would presumably make the overall experience less enjoyable :-).
The tank is not a wonder drug of sorts; it's about relinquishing [conscious] control. That's what I mainly use it for; and deep relaxation.
BTW, some people listen to music in there, but in my view that's just diluting the experience.