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For the 2nd one:
BonJovi a Dafont.com font with no designer/foundry information
BonJovi looks like as somebody took the Metra Serif (Bold) by Gert Wiescher [Wiescher Design, 2009], expand it by 200% and added the spurs.
It's also possible that the two fonts share a common pre-digital source, I don't know...
Top one looks like Algerian
Thank you both!
That BonJovi is awful. Tell me that's not an actual logo, BZ.