Your Favourite Fake Garamond?

Fournier's picture

¶ Among the series of fake Garamond based on Jean Jannon roman (aka Caractère de l'université, designated by the Cardinal de Richelieu), which one do you consider the best?

Garamond 3 (1917) by Morris Fuller Benton
Lanston Garamont (1921) by Frederic Goudy
Monotype Garamond (1922)*
Peignot Garamond (1926) by Georges Peignot
Simoncini Garamond (1961) by Francesco Simoncini
ITC Garamond (1976) by Tony Stan

Footnotes
Back in the previous century, the French publishing house Gallimard bought a license of Monotype Garamond and rename it Garamond du Roi for a particular collection of book called La Bibliothèque de la Pléiade.

Albert Jan Pool's picture

I think Typoart Garamond (1955) by Herbert Thannhaeuser for Typoart (looks like an improved version of Monotype Garamond) and Garamont by Lettergieterij Amsterdam (a copy of the design by Morris Fuller Benton for ATF) should also be on a list of faux Garamonds.

Fournier's picture

What do you think of Garamond Ludlow (1929) by Robert Hunter Middleton?

Albert Jan Pool's picture

Looks like a faux Garamond too. At least at first sight. May be nice for display, unusable for text because it is far too thin. Elegant Garamond (Bistream. now Monotype) seems to be cloned from Ludlow Garamond.

Let’s also do a list of True Garamonds:

Stempel Garamond (Stempel, 1925)
clones of Stempel Garamond:
Original Garamond (Bitstream)
CG Garamond (Compugraphic, Agfa Compugraphic, now Monotype)

Sabon (Jan Tschichold, Stempel/Linotype/Monotype 1967)
clones of Sabon:
Sabon (Ascender, now Monotype)
Classical Garamond (Bitstream, now Monotype)

Berthold Garamond (Günter Gerhard Lange, Berthold 1972)
clones of Berthold Garamond:
URW Garamond (URW)

Adobe Garamond (Robert Slimbach, Adobe, 1989)

Sabon Next (Jean François Porchez, Linotype, 2002)

Garamond Premier (Robert Slimbach, Adobe, 2005)

what else?

George Tulloch's picture

Albert: an old Bitstream catalogue equates Elegant Garamond with Granjon (Linotype), which I think is usually counted as a true Garamond, despite its name.

Les ONeill's picture

The Ludlow Garamond was 'revised & digitised' by Jill pichotta for Font Bureau

http://www.fontbureau.com/fonts/serif/GaramondFB/

Fournier's picture

¶ The Ludlow version displays too much contrast so it can't be French Renaissance.

¶ Read the description of the updated Ludlow Garamond:

Condé Nast commissioned the FB version of this popular oldstyle for Traveler magazine. Douglas Crawford McMurtrie, type historian, and type designer Robert Hunter Middleton collaborated at Ludlow in 1929 to design a light oldstyle roman and italic, then released them light-heartedly under the name of “Garamond”. Jill Pichotta revised and digitized them both, adding additional weights with italics to the series; FB 1992–2000.

Té Rowan's picture

So if you have one in hand, how do you tell if it is 'fake' or 'true'? If you don't have a list? If it isn't on a list?

quadibloc's picture

Well, compare it to the ones that are on the list. That would yield more accurate results than trying to put the distinction into words.

Fournier's picture

¶ Any thoughts on the typeface Laurentian based on Garamond.

quadibloc's picture

Looking it up, it apparently was based partly on Garamond and (to a lesser extent) partly on Caslon; it was a custom typeface created for the Canadian publication Maclean's magazine. (Maclean's is Canada's major weekly news magazine, competing against TIME and Newsweek.)

Looking at the specimen on MyFonts, it didn't seem to have the distinctive "Garamond" feel I associate with the Jannon-based "fake" Garamonds, however, I wouldn't say that this necessarily brings it closer to the "real" Garamonds; it could, but I don't feel qualified to judge that.

Maxim Zhukov's picture

What about George Abrams’s Augereau?

Fournier's picture

What about George Abrams’s Augereau?

¶ Abrams payed a tribute to the Garamond. Nice typeface and not far away from Slimbach.

Maxim Zhukov's picture

• Peignot Garamond (1926) by Georges Peignot

Is this what you mean?

Please notice the Le in the name of the typeface, and the terminal t, not d (that’s how Georges and Jacques Peignot spelled it), and the dates, 1914–23. The source: Charles Peignot. « Les Peignot : Georges, Charles ». Communication & langages, Volume 59, Issue 59. Paris : Armand Colin, 1984, p. 78.

Fournier's picture

Please notice the Le in the name of the typeface, and the terminal t, not d (that’s how Georges and Jacques Peignot spelled it), and the dates, 1914–23. The source: Charles Peignot. « Les Peignot : Georges, Charles ». Communication & langages, Volume 59, Issue 59. Paris : Armand Colin, 1984, p. 78.

¶ It's the old controversy between the Latin nickname and the real name: Garamondus (Garamond) versus Garamont. Goudy also called his version Garamont.

Fournier's picture

¶ After using the name of Garamont's teacher, Augereau, any thoughts on the very rare hot metal Linotype Estienne by George William Jones?

¶ I wonder why there are no Le Bé or Haultin typefaces?

Fournier's picture

¶ How would you define and classify the Garamond-oriented typefaces?

Augereau
Laurentian
Minion

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