1968 Movie Poster Credit Type

matango07030's picture

Any guess on this type for the actor's names?

THANKS as always...

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Nick Cooke's picture

Curd Jurgens?

matango07030's picture

Everyone is stumped? Thanks for taking a look, though...appreciated.

donshottype's picture

There might not be a digital font that is an exact match to this 196os lettering. Silverscreen from Typeart has the right feel, but is slightly narrower than the lettering and has some difference in details http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/typeart/silverscreen/
Don

fvilanakis's picture

Another substitute:
Benton Sans Comp Light by Font Bureau

donshottype's picture

FF Supergrotesk Pro Condensed Regular is slightly wider than the lettering and has some difference in details
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/fontfont/ff-supergrotesk/pro-condensed-regu...
Don

matango07030's picture

Thanks for all of the help...really appreciated.

Birdseeding's picture

Or Lightline Gothic, not right but at least available at the time.

Strange no-one has found it! :)

donshottype's picture

Hi Johan, re your comment "Strange no-one has found it! :)" I suggest this is because the lettering may have been prepared by a photo-letting company. They routinely compressed fonts to fit available spaces. For a base font we would need to look at fonts that were wider. The scale is too small to do any analysis.
Don

Birdseeding's picture

Are you sure? Relatively monoline type like this would be noticeably "squooshed" if compressed, yet its verticals and horizontals seem evenly proportioned here.

You may be right about the scale, though – there appears to a bunch of intriguing details (like the apparently flat-topped A, M and N, the G with the very low juncture, the steep-angled K, and so on) but it's hard to know for certain.

Birdseeding's picture

Actually, all of those details seem to fit onto News Gothic condensed – except this is even lighter. Did anyone ever do an extra-light cut of New Gothic?

donshottype's picture

Try this; Lightline Gothic compressed to 80 percent:


Everything seems to fit except for the _J_, which could have been clipped, and the M which has a higher vertex.
Don

donshottype's picture

News Gothic Condensed is good for the M and J, but seems not quite right for C and S. Both NGC and LLG were designed by Morris Fuller Benton at about the same time, and are similar in most aspects.
If I was looking for an off the shelf substitute for the titling, I would use NGC despite its heavier weight.
Don

Ryuk's picture

Akzidenz Grotesk Next Condensed ExtraLight looks like a valid candidate to me excluding its time period of course (2007).

donshottype's picture

Akzidenz-Grotesk Next Cond ExtraLight does not seem to be narrower than Lightline Gothic and would need to be similiarly compressed to fit the lettering.
Also, Myfonts wants $795.00 for the font! Over a century ago J.P. Morgan mentioned that if a person wanted to know the price of a yacht, they could not afford it. This is the J.P. Morgan Yacht font.
At this price its worth making your own letters from scratch.


From an unreleased titling font.
Don

Mike F's picture

Don - if you click on Buying Choices, you'll see that Berthold (not MyFonts) wants $795 for 14 fonts if one wants to obtain Akzidenz-Grotesk Next Cond ExtraLight. Berthold never has, to my knowledge, allowed customers to purchase a single font they desire. It's always (pricey, in my opinion) packages. Even for the script fonts.

It always seemed to me that they'd sell a lot more fonts if they abandoned this approach, but what do I know ...

donshottype's picture

Thanks Mike for the Bethold pricing info. Even if its for a package of fonts rather than for a single font, $795 still seems to be designed for sales to the wealthy 1% rather than to the common people.
Don

Mike F's picture

My sentiments exactly, Don. There are several fontmakers who appear to value exclusivity over more sales - as reflected in their pricing. Some are thriving with that approach, so who am I to argue with the business model. Still, it must suck for the small designer.

donshottype's picture

What really irritates me, Mike, about the pricing of this font is that from a technical point of view it's very easy to make. If pricing had anything to do with the work put into a font, then someone like Michael Hagemann, who put months of work into some of his ornate Font Mesa fonts, which are outstanding in their technical details, could price at least ten times what he is now charging.
But in an open market pricing has nothing to do with cost.
There are plenty of reasonably priced sans serif fonts, but almost all of them try to have distinctive features rather than stick to a standard Grotesk design that is well over a century old.
I liked the idea of replicating the lettering in this movie poster. So I put together my own classic Grotesk capital letters in this weight and proportion from scratch. If I bother to add the extras, language support etc., and put it up for sale, my pricing would be closer to Font Mesa than Berthold.
Well, that's enough of a rant for today :)
Don

matango07030's picture

Thanks to you all for such detailed help...

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