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Hi Guys,
I'm rounding up this typeface but can't seem to get the feeling it's really ready. I have some hunches about what could be the problem, but I'm curious to hear what you all think should be changed.
If you have any suggestions, please tell me. Before I will create the whole family I want that the basic is OK.
RV |
2 Sep 2003 — 3:07pm
nice Ren
2 Sep 2003 — 3:40pm
I really like this too.
Paul
3 Sep 2003 — 2:00pm
Hmmm, I see what you mean, Neil. Do you have any suggestions perhaps on how to spice the Y/y up?
And yes, I'll definately make a set of lining figures. I want the original type to have the OSF figures because that gives it a little bit flair.
You really think the V is to wide? I agree about the M, N, W. I'll correct them.
I'm also thinking about some icons/pictograms or numerals. But I first need some topics on what icons would be sencefull to have in a type like this. Something for later.
The font has a 33 degree angle in the diagonals. Would it be a problem if, by creating the other widths, this angle would change? Because if I stretch the type the angle changes with it. If I correct this the openings in some characters (a, e, p) will become to small, because the endpoint of the angle moved to the right.
Perhaps it's me that I want to be more than perfect and can't see that it's finished. I have that problem more often, so...
Thanks,
Ren
3 Sep 2003 — 2:34pm
> The font has a 33 degree angle in the diagonals.
If you used 33.69 degrees instead, you'd end up with a nice 1/1.5 slope, which would render nicer on-screen, especially in 1-bit.
Degrees are dead, long live integer ratios!
hhp
3 Sep 2003 — 4:32pm
ren
3 Sep 2003 — 8:52pm
Hrant,
Just curious, but do you think hinting could force the slope to the 1/1.5 at the smaller sizes where it will truly matter?
3 Sep 2003 — 10:18pm
I think so, since hinting can do almost anything. Which is why sometimes it's made to do too much - but that's another thread...
hhp
5 Sep 2003 — 2:44am
hhp, how did you calculate the angle on the slope? I'm really a lousy mathematicion. I failed big time in highschool on that subject.
Is there a formula that I could use in situations like this? Or do you perhaps have a url where I can read more on this topic?
Thanks,
Ren
5 Sep 2003 — 10:15am
If you have an integer-ratio slope (like 2/3) in mind and want to get the angle:
Just take its arc-tangent. ATAN(0.666) = ~33.69 degrees
If you have a degree angle (like 33) in mind and want to find the closet integer-ratio slope:
Take its tangent, and do a 1-over to make it easier to read. 1/TAN(33) = ~1.54
Then you [generally] have to decide how to round it to get a nice ratio - in this case probably 1.5 is best.
hhp
8 Sep 2003 — 3:13am
w
8 Sep 2003 — 3:26am
Oh boy, there we go again. This goes way over my creative head.
I'll try to change the slope in the type. But can I ask you about the formula later, hhp? Only when I have something similar to this? Really, mathematics is no-no land for me.
Thanks,
Ren