Nordic Narrow Light, advice please

Rene Verkaart's picture

Hi Guys,

I'm rounding up this typeface but can't seem to get the feeling it's really ready. I have some hunches about what could be the problem, but I'm curious to hear what you all think should be changed.
If you have any suggestions, please tell me. Before I will create the whole family I want that the basic is OK.


application/pdfNordic Narrow Light
RV

neil summerour's picture

nice Ren

capthaddock's picture

I really like this too.

Paul

Rene Verkaart's picture

Hmmm, I see what you mean, Neil. Do you have any suggestions perhaps on how to spice the Y/y up?
And yes, I'll definately make a set of lining figures. I want the original type to have the OSF figures because that gives it a little bit flair.
You really think the V is to wide? I agree about the M, N, W. I'll correct them.
I'm also thinking about some icons/pictograms or numerals. But I first need some topics on what icons would be sencefull to have in a type like this. Something for later.

The font has a 33 degree angle in the diagonals. Would it be a problem if, by creating the other widths, this angle would change? Because if I stretch the type the angle changes with it. If I correct this the openings in some characters (a, e, p) will become to small, because the endpoint of the angle moved to the right.

Perhaps it's me that I want to be more than perfect and can't see that it's finished. I have that problem more often, so...

Thanks,
Ren

hrant's picture

> The font has a 33 degree angle in the diagonals.

If you used 33.69 degrees instead, you'd end up with a nice 1/1.5 slope, which would render nicer on-screen, especially in 1-bit.

Degrees are dead, long live integer ratios!

hhp

mitchell's picture

Hrant,
Just curious, but do you think hinting could force the slope to the 1/1.5 at the smaller sizes where it will truly matter?

hrant's picture

I think so, since hinting can do almost anything. Which is why sometimes it's made to do too much - but that's another thread...

hhp

Rene Verkaart's picture

hhp, how did you calculate the angle on the slope? I'm really a lousy mathematicion. I failed big time in highschool on that subject.
Is there a formula that I could use in situations like this? Or do you perhaps have a url where I can read more on this topic?

Thanks,
Ren

hrant's picture

If you have an integer-ratio slope (like 2/3) in mind and want to get the angle:
Just take its arc-tangent. ATAN(0.666) = ~33.69 degrees

If you have a degree angle (like 33) in mind and want to find the closet integer-ratio slope:
Take its tangent, and do a 1-over to make it easier to read. 1/TAN(33) = ~1.54
Then you [generally] have to decide how to round it to get a nice ratio - in this case probably 1.5 is best.

hhp

Rene Verkaart's picture

Oh boy, there we go again. This goes way over my creative head.
I'll try to change the slope in the type. But can I ask you about the formula later, hhp? Only when I have something similar to this? Really, mathematics is no-no land for me.

Thanks,
Ren

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