CARTER, MATTHEW

beejay's picture

A few days ago, I started a LIST OF TYPEFACES
by Matthew Carter.

For some reason, I couldn't find a single reference
via Google that listed ALL of his typefaces.
His humility probably has something to do with that.

The list stands at 43.

The list DOES NOT include his Bitstream work

jfp's picture

Just buy the book on M. Carter work published couple of months ago, who include also a genre of specimen designed by him where he show all his typefaces.

Great book!
The art of Matthew Carter
University of Maryland
by Margaret Re

kentlew's picture

BJ --

1) As JFP mentioned, there was a catalog published in conjunction with the traveling exhibit of Matthew Carter's work, Typographically Speaking: The Art of Matthew Carter. This included a complete checklist (well, complete as of last year -- it doesn't include the most recent designs, like the Monticello revival). The checklist was compiled by Carter himself.

John Berry wrote an article about the exhibit, which you can read at http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/18099.html

The catalog may still be available. You can try contacting Cynthia Wayne, Curator of Exhibitions at the Albin O. Kuhn Library & Gallery -- e-mail: cwayne@umbc.edu or telephone (410) 455-2270. I think the cost is $20 + $3 S&H.

The checklist lists 72 designs, including the ITC Greeks. And the Shelleys are counted as one.

Too bad you didn't inquire before doing all that googling.

2) The typeface for El Pa

beejay's picture

Yeah, I saw Cynthia Wayne's name come up
a lot and I didn't know if anyone
had purchased that or what it had inside.

I'll get it.

Do either of you want to post
the complete list...when you have
time of course.

My list (adding Madrid, Milne and Durham)
but Shelley = 1 is at 44. :-)

Does the book include Rocky? That was an
obscure one.

> Too bad you didn't inquire before doing all that googling.

I learned a lot. :-O

bj

beejay's picture

Here's the list I had + the ones you mentioned.

Airport
Alisal
Auriga
Auriol
Bell Centennial
Big Caslon
Cascade Script
Century 725 (Boston Globe)
Charter
Cochin
CRT Gothic
Durham (US News and World Report)
Elephant
F DeFace (FUSE)
Fenway (Sports Illustrated)
Galliard
Gando Ronde
Georgia (Microsoft)
Helvetica Compressed
Madrid (El Pa

kentlew's picture

Matthew mentions in his introduction that he doesn't include several faces that have been attributed to him but that he doesn't consider that he really designed -- including things like Auriol and Cochin and Optima Greek. But they show up in the index that I counted earlier. Go figure.

He also omitted a couple designs that he did for corporate identities (such as the one I think you are calling Airport in your list) because they were never manufactured as fonts for typesetting, but instead only pasted up from photostats -- so he says.

I see no mention of Century 725. Elephant was renamed Big Figgins for general release. He says New Baskerville is wrongly attributed to him; John Quaranta directed that one. The Washington Post Bodoni is called Postoni (no 'd'). He doesn't mention Rocky.

He did Ionic Number One in 1999 for Carter & Cone. You're missing Wrigley for Sports Illustrated. He also includes the Manutius Latin supplement to Miller that he did for UCLA. There was Benton Bold Condensed for Time, Foreman Light for The Philadelphia Inquirer, and Newsbaum for the New York Daily News.

It is now clear to me that the index I counted earlier is not a definitive list -- it's just an index; and several entries are faces that he doesn't claim. So that 72 count I mentioned earlier is incorrect. I don't have the time to assemble a more definitive list from the 16-page specimen.

But get the book. It's well worth it.

-- K.

beejay's picture

Wow! I will add to the list.
Maybe I ought to get the book first.

I have IndieFonts, which I failed to check.
Of course, Big Figgins, Sammy Roman, etc.

The Wrigley I remember reading about and now
that I googled, I see it was from
Andy's discussions with Carter.
Also, I see Postoni called Postoni.

The Postdoni comes from here:
http://www.asne.org/index.cfm?ID=4339

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bieler's picture

bj

I sent a post previously but it hasn't shown up. Probably hit the wrong button.

One item you are missing is LeBe, a Hebrew that was used in the Pennyroyal Caxton Bible. Not available otherwise. There are also beta fonts that have been around for a while that have not appeared and probably won't until there is some commercial interest.

I was involved in the Manutius face mentioned by Kent. At the time Miller Text and Wilson Greek were in beta and we needed a roman/Greek face. Matthew configured them for us and also supplied every glyph we could find that existed in the 16th, 17th, and 20th century. It grew to be quite a monster. It is no longer available. I wrote about the project in an issue of Printing History. The beta fonts I mentioned above were also discussed in the article. Not sure how Matthew felt about that so I will only refer you to the article.

Skia was initially a QuickDraw GX font and had much more extrapolative potential (amazingly so) than what was eventually made available as a TrueType font. Might want to somehow deferentiate this?

johnbutler's picture

Just this past week I called up C+C and purchased a license for Flammande, right now my favorite Textura. There's a small showing of it at the top of page 13 of the Blackletter: Type and National Identity exhibition catalogue by Peter Bain and Paul Shaw. I'm still eagerly awaiting the unveiling of the C+C website. Flammande is two Type 1 fonts: the main font and the archaic scribal ligatures.

SuperUltraFabulous's picture

Add Big Bruce to the list.

charles ellertson's picture

Actually, I have Wilson Greek & just converted it to OpenType, with the ligatures applied via a series of stylistic sets. Carter offered some basic help with the project & has seen it, but not commented. At least he didn't suggest I'd done it harm (he's a nice man).

I was unaware Wilson Greek is no longer available; that is a shame. They took out some of the Greek text in the final version, but I used it with Quadraat for Household and City Organization at Olynthus.

http://books.google.com/books?id=YenwwRfce9YC&dq=household+and+city+orga...

for a sample of Wilson Greek, see the preface (page vii), and chapter 1 (page 1).

BTW I disclaim the title page. Yale took out the subtitle at the last minute & didn't allow a redesign.

Addison Hall's picture

Typographically Speaking: The Art of Matthew Carter

Got mine from Amazon -- it's wonderful book (catalog, whatever).

EDIT: Whoops! I didn't notice how old this thread was...

mondoB's picture

There is his serif type family for Yale University, which now has bold and bold italic, though it's not available to the public.

Peter G.'s picture

For the record, I just found Carter's Wilson font here: http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

Jan's picture

What about Verdana?

Christopher Adams's picture

Peter G. wrote: For the record, I just found Carter's Wilson font here:

The font Alexander which you link to was designed by George Douros, not Matthew Carter. It is (like Carter's Wilson Greek) a text face based on the Greek types of Alexander Wilson.

charles ellertson's picture

I have Wilson Greek, & use it whenever if fits well with a requested Latin font (works very well with with Quadraat, for example).

Went and looked at Alexander on the site above. The rho (at least) is different. I didn't download Alexander to see if the work was comparable to Wilson Greek. I would suspect not, but I've been known to be too cynical . . .

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